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The New York Times
Wed, November 04, 2009 — 12:27 AM ET
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Conservative Concedes in Upstate Congressional Race
A staunch conservative conceded defeat to a moderate Democrat
early Wednesday morning in a hard-fought contest for New York
State’s northernmost Congressional seat, a race that exposed
divisions among Republicans over how far outside the party’s
base they should reach as they look to rebuild.
With 88 percent of precincts reporting, the Democrat, Bill
Owens, was leading with 49 percent of the vote, while the
Conservative Party candidate, Douglas L. Hoffman, had 45.5
percent.





24 Comments
November 4, 2009 at 8:29 am
Lesson from the 23rd: wingnut’s influence is inversely proportional to how loud they are.
November 4, 2009 at 9:19 am
Maine Voters Repeal Law Allowing Gay Marriage
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/05/us/politics/05maine.html?_r=1&hp
Sucks!
November 4, 2009 at 9:27 am
Yea for the 23rd.
The Catholics and Mormons seem to have a lot of money to influence elections. Is is time for an investigation about their tax status?
November 4, 2009 at 9:30 am
This whole concept of allowing people’s rights to be determined at the ballot box is just so wrong.
November 4, 2009 at 10:07 am
Bev, this is a heavily Catholic area in the NY 23rd. Most of us supported Owens. The Catholic groups that supported Hoffman are the far out groups that few locals support. We are not Bill Donahue types. It’s the damned outsiders that drove Hoffman’s race. Thank heavens they failed.
November 4, 2009 at 10:26 am
The Bible says eating shell fish is an abomination, so I think the people of Maine should pass a law outlawing lobster fishing. A-yup!
November 4, 2009 at 10:32 am
Here ya go Brian:
BRECKENRIDGE — Breckenridge residents voted overwhelmingly Tuesday to decriminalize possession of small amounts of marijuana and paraphernalia under town law. Unofficial results show 71 percent of voters approved the initiative.
http://www.denverpost.com/ci_13707672
November 4, 2009 at 10:35 am
Nanny I think Bev was referring to the fact that the church so heavily supported and bankrolled the efforts in Maine to repeal same sex marriage.
November 4, 2009 at 11:10 am
Oh, OK. Well the same thing applies really. The Catholic Church, unlike the mormon church, doesn’t support political initiatives. It’s the crazy groups like Bill Donahue’s Catholic League that do that. Few mainstream Catholics have anything to do with them.
November 4, 2009 at 11:40 am
I can’t wait for this! Read the comments; they’re hilarious.
Bush 43 And Bill Clinton To Face Off In ‘Uncensored’ Debate
http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/11/bush-43-and-bill-clinton-to-face-off-in-uncensored-debate.php?ref=mp
November 4, 2009 at 11:53 am
OMG, Clinton and Bush debating? What a joke. I wouldn’t pay to see it, but can’t wait to hear about it.
Yes, I was referring to the influence of religious groups on elections. And in a piece from the NYT, the Catholic Church did help with it’s repeal. See link and article below.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/05/us/politics/05maine.html?_r=1&hp
“The Catholic Church was a leading supporter of the repeal campaign, even asking parishes to pass a second collection plate at Sunday mass to help the cause. The National Organization for Marriage also contributed heavily to the repeal campaign; it is under investigation by Maine’s ethics commission for possibly flouting state campaign finance laws by refusing to reveal its donors.”
November 4, 2009 at 11:53 am
“. Few mainstream Catholics have anything to do with them.”
But unfortunately they do get a lot of support from a great many within the church hierarchy. It’s unreasonable not to expect gay people and their supporters to have some (if not a lot) resentment to the Church, not just on what happened in Maine but on a lot of gay related issues.
November 4, 2009 at 12:42 pm
OMG! Bev, I have never heard of such a thing in any parish I have ever been in! That’s despicable. The Church is not supposed to engage in political activism. If that happened in my church, I’d walk out and my priest would definitely know why.
November 4, 2009 at 12:49 pm
Brian, I AM one of those supporters of gay people. And, yes, it does anger me that some within Church hierarchy support anti-gay initiatives. But until now, I have never heard of “asking parishes to pass a second collection plate at Sunday mass to help the cause.” In fact, I have never seen or heard any political issues raised in my Church. Not EVER! That this happens elsewhere is shocking and very upsetting to me. It’s wrong and against what I have always believed was the mission of the church. I’m stunned….
November 4, 2009 at 12:54 pm
Well isn’t that really at the heart of the issue, for many people this isn’t a political issue but a moral one. As we all know “morality” is rather subjective.
November 4, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Thanks for your reponse, Nanny – it surprised me too! I left years ago.
November 4, 2009 at 1:20 pm
‘Very, very close to zero’ GOPs will vote for House healthcare bill
Republicans will overwhelmingly reject the Democrats’ healthcare reform measure when it is reaches the House floor, according to a key lawmaker.
Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), who serves as deputy GOP whip, told The Hill that the number of Republicans supporting the sweeping legislation will be “very, very close to zero.”
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/66319-few-if-any-republicans-will-vote-for-house-healthcare-bill
November 4, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Carly Fiorina, who single-handedly managed to almost run techno-powerhouse Hewlett-Packard into the ground, now wants to be a Senator:
http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2009/11/carly-fiorina-senate-run/
I’m guessing a lot of HP employees in CA won’t be voting for her…
November 4, 2009 at 5:58 pm
Bachmann’s Chief Of Staff Quits
In an e-mail exchange with POLITICO, Marston declined to say why she’s going.
A conservative Republican House member, speaking on the condition of anonymity, suggested that Bachman’s views – and her willingness to state them – make it hard for her to keep staff.
“When your captain’s crazy, it’s time to find a new ship,” the lawmaker said.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/11/bachmanns-chief-of-staff-quits.php
November 4, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Rush said new Obama documentary at risk of “anal poisoning”
Then Rush said Obama is “not a narcissist,” but informed us that Obama watched a documentary about himself last night as the election returns were coming in. Rush said this documentary, “By the People,” was so fawning that it could get “anal poisoning.” He then spent several minutes criticizing Obama for watching that instead of the election returns.
http://mediamatters.org/research/200911040046
Despite years of experience in the medical field, neither hubby nor I have ever heard of “anal poisoning.” It’s not in any of our medical books either. Must be that liberal education we got…..
November 4, 2009 at 9:24 pm
I’m watching the Yankee game. It’s 4-1 YANKEES as we go to the bottom of the 4th. GO YANKEES! The champagne is on ice!
November 4, 2009 at 9:30 pm
Yeah it’s a pretty good game so far!
November 4, 2009 at 9:57 pm
Now that was nice! 7/1!
November 4, 2009 at 11:53 pm
NEW THREAD!
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