Veteran’s Day, by dnd

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Tomb Of The Unknowns

My grandfather, a European immigrant, fought in the US Army in WWI.  My Dad fought in WWII.  Many of my friends fought in Vietnam.  What do they have in common?  First, that they hate war.  Second, they refuse to relate or remember the horrors of war they experienced.  The remembrance of the horror is just too painful.

Every Memorial Day I visit my Dad’s grave at Ft. Logan National Cemetery.  Boy Scouts adorn each grave with a flag.

On this Veteran’s Day, we can all give thanks for those who have given so much for us.

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  1. My dad was very much the same, no matter how much I pestered him when I was a kid to tell me about the war he wouldn’t. He served as a medic in an army hospital in the UK, never saw combat, just it’s aftermath. His army jacket hangs in my closet. He too opted to have his remains buried in a vets cemetery.

  2. dog's eye view

    Beautiful post. Heading to Arlington National Cemetery later today to visit my dad.

    Thank you to Sheila and Lee and Dexter and all our veterans.

  3. chefsheila

    Thanks Dog,

    the Same to Doots and Dex and along with Nash (if your out there) and ….FryDaddy.

    Finally to my wonderful father, Uncles, Brothers, and my son.

    Happy Veterans day.

  4. dog's eye view

    I think the ones who won’t tell you much about war are the ones who saw it close up and don’t want to disturb their loved ones with a recounting, or dishonor their lost peers by hero puffering.

    Beware those who sell you the glory of war and military conquest. It comes at a cost.

    ======

    Idea: maybe for this holiday, Back Channel could adopt an Iraq or Afghan vet family for holiday gifts and cheer? Especially an injured vet or someone having trouble readjusting to civilian life (economic hardship).

    Our vets are coming back to a slow economy. Learning today that truckers are experiencing a real slowdown in their loads — that is unusual; this is usually a very busy time for them.

    Anyway, we could band together and provide $$ and/or gifts to a military family (currently serving or recently out) in need. They have borne too much so their civilian peers can live without sacrificing much (until the economy tanked….)

  5. I’ll second that : Thank you to Sheila and Lee and Dexter and all our veterans.

    My Grandfather served in WWI in France, and my Dad in WWII stateside. At my Father’s memorial, my oldest brother worn his WWII uniform. It fit him perfectly.

  6. chefsheila

    Olbermann Signs Contract Extension with MSNBC

    MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann joined the ladies of The View today. But one piece of news he didn’t get to report was about himself. TVNewser has learned Olbermann has signed a contract extension with MSNBC/NBC that takes him through the 2012 election. Olbermann had signed a deal in February ’07 which kept him with the network through 2011.

    Nothing like getting back to normal. 🙂

  7. chefsheila

    …..I’m afraid, along with DHL, there are many more coming before Christmas…..a bell weather indication of what is in store.

    Time to Quit? Layoff Memos From Time, Sports Illustrated, People and Fortune

    http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20081110/time-inc-to-employees-want-to-quit-were-all-ears/

    I’m also hearing the the Networks are going to begin to trim now that the election is over……

  8. chefsheila

    Sorry guys, Just seeing this stuff. Frankly, its good to be aware of any momentun coming our way.

    Tribune swings to a loss

    L.A. Times’ owner loses $121.6 million in the third quarter as newspaper ad sales fall.

    http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-tribune11-2008nov11,0,4354066.story

  9. chefsheila

    Oh well……everything I’ve read this morning has been about cuts, layoffs, profit losses.

    I think I’ll concentrate of something positive. Like taking a shower.

  10. chefsheila

    Cabinet Picks,

    Under the circumstances.

    For Treasury, I want Timothy Geithner and for Labor I really really want Robert Reich.

    Geithner is young, fresh, sucessful, and his tutelege was under the Clinton Administration.

    Robert Reich is my hero and therefore should become Labor again. 🙂

  11. chefsheila

    Speaking of my hero,

    Here is his latest piece from his blog.

    The Mini Depression and the Maximum-Strength Remedy
    http://www.robertreich.blogspot.com/

    This is not the Great Depression of the 1930s, but nor is it turning out to be merely a bad recession of the kind we’ve experienced periodically over the last half century. Call it a Mini Depression. The employment report last Friday shows job losses accelerating, along with the number of Americans working part time who’d rather be and need to be working full time. Retail sales have fallen off a cliff. Stock prices continue to drop. General Motors is on the brink of bankruptcy. The rate of home foreclosures is mounting.

  12. You had two days to make cabinet picks, I have work to do today, you’ll all have to save your changes to the next round.

  13. Because I’m such a nice friggin guy I made your changes Sheila.

  14. dnd

    Shelia,
    Geithner is brilliant. Maybe if Volcker took the first couple of years and then Geithner might be good.

  15. chefsheila

    lol OH thanks Brian, I didn’t expect that at all. I was just making my mental changes.

    But you are a Prince among men! I do appreciate you kindness.

    These are definitely what I would like.

  16. chefsheila

    dnd,

    Why is everyone buzzing about Summers? What about him?

  17. dnd

    Shelia,
    Summers is the smartest boy in class today. The only issue may be what some perceive as an abrasive personality. The guy is blunt to a fault. But he’s a genius.

  18. chefsheila

    So as genious’s go, is he better than the other two in governing, managing, implimenting or should he retained as an advisor and let someone else run the show?

  19. dnd

    Well, he did a great job last time he was at Treasury. No reason to think he couldn’t do that again. Actually, I think we’re fortunate to have such a talented short list for Treasury. Any of those guys will probably do well.

  20. dnd, I will always submit to the memory of an individual who gets swept up into events larger than themselves, such as being in the military, and perhaps giving his or her life to a cause.

    As a veteran myself, I want our country to be known as a peaceful nation not using our resources and citizens for wars and empire building. Veterans’ Day was changed from celebrating the end of a war, the Armistice ending The Great War, the war to end all wars, into celebrating all things military.

    The Bush years have been a disaster for our nation. I for one can’t wait for the day we declare victory and leave both Iraq and Afghanistan. I don’t want to see any more of our citizens being killed or maimed for life as a result of a terribly misguided war when peace wasn’t given a chance.

    Let Veterans’ Days be known as the end of wars!

  21. dnd

    eprof2,
    Beautifully stated.

  22. dnd

    eprof2,
    BTW, have you heard the rumors that the Rockies are going to trade Matt Holliday and Garett Atkins? Such a stupid move would be very good news for your Dbacks.

  23. horsedooty

    Holliday to Oakland, Dnd

  24. Yes, dnd, I saw the sports section that said Holliday’s departure was a sure thing. He’s one heck of a baseball player and he’s given the D-Backs big time trouble over the years. I guess the CR’s are going young or just trying to reduce their payroll for more profits for the owners. Too bad baseball is more about business than baseball these days.

  25. For South, a Waning Hold on Politics

    What may have ended on Election Day, though, is the centrality of the South to national politics. By voting so emphatically for Senator John McCain over Mr. Obama — supporting him in some areas in even greater numbers than they did President Bush — voters from Texas to South Carolina and Kentucky may have marginalized their region for some time to come, political experts say.

    The region’s absence from Mr. Obama’s winning formula means it “is becoming distinctly less important,” said Wayne Parent, a political scientist at Louisiana State University. “The South has moved from being the center of the political universe to being an outside player in presidential politics.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/11/us/politics/11south.html?hp

  26. dnd

    Yeah, I hear the rumors that Holliday to the A’s is a done deal. Apparently since DePodesta left Billy Beane has forgot the lessons of Moneyball. I can’t understand why Holliday would want to go to the A’s. They, and everybody else, are gonna have a tough time against the Angels.

  27. dnd

    eprof2,
    The Rockies owners are clueless. Sure you fill seats with winning teams, but you also win by keeping fan favorites on the roster.

    I remember after the Rockies traded fan favorite Andres Galarraga and he finally would up in SF. I went to a Giants game here and the Big Cat came out to pitch hit. He got a standing ovation. Even though he flew out to left, he got another standing ovation. 50,000 people standing and cheering for a member of the other team! The ovation lasted so long Galarraga came out of the dugout and tipped his cap, which of course made the fans cheer louder. Everyone was pissed that after he retired the Rockies didn’t sign him to pinch hit so he could get his 400th home run.

    Not that I’m complaining about Todd Helton. I use this to illustrate my point. People were likewise pissed they traded Vinny Castilla and Larry Walker, Colorado’s only five tool player.

  28. Off thread from yesterday: KO didn’t have the guts to call out his colleague, Joe Scarborough, for the F-Word on his morning program. Like I said, I have no problems with the language but it is very hypocritical of JS to campaign against others for using the word and then using it himself. Down a notch for KO!

  29. Nannymm

    Good Afternoon and Happy Veteran’s Day. Thanks to all our veterans for your service to this country. And thanks to all their families who must sacrifice for us.

  30. One notch up for KO and his special comment last night, For the Human Heart. Well Done!

  31. chefsheila

    Eprof,

    ……I forgot you’re a Shipmate! So sorry. I just think of you as our Oricle. 🙂

    Happy Veterans Day Shipmate!

  32. chefsheila

    LOL EPROF! YOu crack me up! Your one notch up and down, making the punishment moot! Well it reminds me of the demarits at Hogwarts. Harry and crew seemed to lose and gain at the same time when Dumbledore was trying to show disipline. 🙂

  33. Sheila, thanks for the shipmate call. I had to laugh at myself over the KO notches, too. I was upset at KO last night for not calling out Joe. Then, when I heard his About the Human Heart comment, I relented and appreciated his words. If you haven’t seen the special comments, HuffPost is carrying the video. It’ll bring tears to your eyes, as it did to KO, almost.

  34. chefsheila

    I saw it last night and fell in love with Keith’s big heart all over again.

  35. chefsheila

    This is for you Eprof!

    They heard you. 🙂

    Morning Joe Put on Delay

    http://mail.google.com/mail/?account_id=chefstonesheila%40gmail.com#inbox/11d8d605c3af4bfc

  36. chefsheila

    Here’s one more itty bitty dity for you guys.

    Is President-elect Obama a Mac?

    http://www.mediabistro.com/mobiledevicestoday/on/is_presidentelect_obama_a_mac_100070.asp

  37. chefsheila

    But Doots! That is sooooooo kewl!

  38. Hey doots, hows the leg doing?

  39. horsedooty

    Pain is very low most of the time. I have an appointment on 11/20 at the big VA hospital for a post op evaluation. I am told I am on the shelf for 8 to 10 weeks. That is just about the end of the year. Sleeping with this big ass boot on is somewhat hard but I can nap. I will write something in the not too distant future for the this blog.

  40. dnd

    Shelia,
    Obama is biracial and bipartisan. So he’s both a Mac and a PC.

  41. dnd

    Brian,
    If the Republicans want to guarantee a loss in 2012, Sarah Palin’s their girl. I saw her interview on the Today show this morning. She’s an impostor. And a bad liar. And clueless. So clueless that she doesn’t even realize she’s clueless. There are many competent Republicans, but the “Dancing with the Stars” media creation isn’t one of them.

    She does however play the victim of sexism very well…

  42. chefsheila

    Palin really IS a the lost twin of George W Bush. I think the latest label, “low Information” individual couldn’t be more accurate.

  43. chefsheila

    I don’t know if anyone here has seen this OpEd from BIll Crystol yet,

    But….its definitely one for the ages.

    G.O.P. Dog Days?
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/10/opinion/10kristol.html?ref=opinion

    “”””Those were my thoughts when, a few minutes into his victory speech, just after midnight, Obama told his daughters, “And you have earned the new puppy that’s coming with us to the new White House.”

    I gulped.

    Not out of my deep affection for dogs, fond of them though I am. But because while we’ve all known that Obama is a very skillful politician, he hasn’t until now been a particularly empathetic one. Competence plus warmth is a pretty potent combination.

    Suddenly visions of the two great modern realigning presidents — Franklin Roosevelt (with his Scottish terrier Fala) and Ronald Reagan (with his Cavalier King Charles spaniel Rex) — flashed before my eyes. Maybe a realignment could be coming.”””

    When Bill Crystol Folds, you know we’ve got a mandate.

    The whole piece is worth reading.

  44. dnd

    Great catch Shelia. I don’t think Kristol has folded, but he’s deeply depressed 😉

    He made two glaring mistakes in that piece, probably because he’s in a state of denial. First he keeps referring to Republican’s as conservatives. Not so much these days. Second he said: “In other words, this was a good Democratic year, but it is still a center-right country. ” Huh? What does he base the “center-right” argument on?

  45. Nannymm

    I read that yesterday. I had the same reaction as Kristol did. The repugs are going to have a very hard time undermining our soon to be new president.
    As for Palin, I am afraid, Brian. VERY afraid! That woman scares me.

    Just read this piece about the Alaska senate race. Can they really do this? Seems illegal to me.

    Under state law absentee ballots had to be postmarked by Election Day. But the state will still accept those mailed in the United States through this Friday. Those mailed outside the country will still be accepted through Nov. 19.

    http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=9327256

  46. chefsheila

    Nanny and all,

    After having experienced Absentee voting for 20 years and 2 elections over seas, plus one in a hazerdous duty country, we were indeed allowed to vote on election day.

    We knew however, that our votes would be counted last, if at all. Or in the case like this. I have never known how many absentees on average we have in this country, but I believe this election has really highlighted it.

    90,000 for Alaska….wow

  47. chefsheila

    Now…..KO is the only one today, that identified Tammy Duckworth with Obama laying the wreath today.

  48. Nannymm

    But how can they violate state law like that? if ballots had to be postmarked by Election Day per Alaska law, it is illegal to accept ballots mailed after Nov, 4th.

  49. chefsheila

    No they post mark had to be by Nov 4th. But Alaska is allowing over seas ballots to arrive no later than the 19th.
    That takes into account the time it takes for ballots mailed from foreign posts to get into the country and then turned around for alaska. It still takes up to 4 days for the lower 48. I’m sure its a little longer on average.

  50. chefsheila

    let me give you a scenario. I was in Haiti for the “Haitian Vacation”. No post offices availible on the island. Only the USS Mount Whitney of shore for 5,000 military semi ocupying the island, while a new govenment took shape.

    The Whitney had a Helocopter pad and that is all. The only time a Helo took off or landed was when the Radar was turned off.

    The Helo made trips to the Aircraft Carrier off the coast and only once a day for a POD to come in and off load Mail as well as take it off.

    BTW, both ships have post masters so post marks are availible.

    The POD took some hours to get to CONUS and then it took another day to get that mail to the US Postal Service, From there is gets deceminated.

    Just one scenario. There are US Citizens in every part of the globe. Some with the same time constraints. Alaska is way out there too.

  51. dnd

    Earlier today I mentioned after seeing the Palin interviews what an incompetent liar she is. Tonight on Countdown, KO exposed those lies. Too bad Matt Laurer couldn’t catch even the easy ones, e.g., the Harry Potter issue or the “city manager” as opposed to “mayor.”

  52. chefsheila

    https://clistersbackchannel.wordpress.com/2008/11/11/veteran%e2%80%99s-day-by-dnd/#comment-12429

    I get your question. The Article said they had to have post marks no later then election day and CONUS ballots to arrive in Alaska no later than the 9th of November. Allowing the time span to arrive from the lower fortyeight.

  53. chefsheila

    wo….a bloger on Rachel is saying the Alaska elections are stinky.

  54. It’s all that dead rotting moose meat!

  55. WASHINGTON — President-elect Obama has hired former Senate Armed Services Committee chairman Sam Nunn to help shepherd his Pentagon transition, a spokeswoman said Tuesday.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/11/obama-taps-veteran-democr_n_143155.html

  56. dog's eye view

    Good morning all. Interesting discussion last night from you guys.

  57. Nannymm

    Good morning!

  58. dog's eye view

    Hi Nanny.

    Interesting reader comments re Big 3 automaker bailout: think of the states’/region’s economy and don’t microfocus on rewarding bad thinking/behavior by Big 3 execs.

    http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/11/let-them-die-ct.html#more

  59. chefsheila

    NEW THREAD

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