The Next GOP Leader? by dnd

Watching some of the coverage of the Republican Governors Association convention I wondered if somewhere in that mix we were seeing the next leader of the Republican Party.

Seeing the current rising stars, Tim Pawlenty, Bobby Jindal, Charlie Crist and, of course, Sarah Palin, I began to wonder.  Jindal is very bright, well educated and a son of immigrants.  Tim Pawlenty is popular and squeaky clean.  Charlie Crist is Florida handsome, personable and willing to stand up to his party when he disagrees philosophically.  Sarah Palin is pretty and a rock star.

Then there’s former Governors Mike Huckabee and Mitt Romney.  And there’s never-a-governor Newt Gingrich.

All of these people, to some degree, suffer the same problem of being associated with the current Republican Party.

Second stringers Mitch Daniels and Mark Sanford are different.  Both are very bright and well educated.  Neither are hyper-partisan.  Most importantly both are fiscal conservatives and have a considerable understanding of finance.  They remind me of the fiscal conservatism that seems to have been forgotten by the Republican Party for the last 50 years.

I’d put my money on Daniels and Sanford.



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57 responses to “The Next GOP Leader? by dnd

  1. Well it’s no secret I’m hoping it will be Palin, the thought of a Palin vs. Obama race just fills me with glee!

  2. Re: Clinton, if the leak came from her side that would definitely take her out of the running.

  3. chefsheila

    I think Pawlenty has “IT”. His very smart. His comebacks even have me laughing. He dodged his distaste for Palin well yesterday.

    Have to go to work!

  4. chefsheila

    The Leaks were to Andrea Mitchell. She said two senior Obama advisors. It was deliberate

  5. chefsheila

    CHOW guys! 🙂

  6. I don’t have anything against Hillary in the SOS spot, but I’m don’t see what Obama sees as the advantages of having her in that spot, the only thing I see is a “Team Of Rivals” things, which I think does appeal to him. The more we learn about Obama the more it seems that Lincoln does weigh heavily on him.

  7. Nannymm

    Brian, you and I think alike. Palin taking on Obama in 2012 would be my dream match-up. I can’t stop smiling at the thought….LOL

  8. Nannymm

    I think you have a point there. Personally, I hope Hillary remains as our senator. I think she has more of a future in the Senate.

  9. Nannymm

    Plus, I don’t see her working for Obama. If it is offered and she accepts, my question will be why? What is in it for her? How will it further her career? Do you guys have any insight on that?

  10. dog's eye view

    I will skip any wishing it’s Palin in 2012 because how could she win?

    We’ve lived through two GWBush administrations.

    on dnd’s column: Mitch Daniels is definitely another to watch.

    Mark Sanford gets mentioned all the time, but I am never sure why. Time mag ranked him one of the nation’s 5 worst governors a few years back, and he does not do his homework. (Recall the CNN interview where he could not name a McCain econ policy that differed from Bush’s.)

    However: in going back to check that, found this reader comment on a HuffPost thread, and it seems sensible:

    “i am from charleston, sc, and although i do not always agree with him politically, i have to come to mark sanford’s defense. his performance was a nightmare but sanford is no dan quayle. he is a smart decent guy, no yokel, and is unusually thoughtful for a politician. he is not your typical politician: he does not lie nor does he spin. he can be quirky and obstinate in sticking to his strongly-held principles ala ron paul, especially when it comes to balance budgets and deficit spending; in fact, when he was in congress, paul and sanford were regularly one of the few holdouts on popular pork barrel bills. sanford could not come up with any significant thing that separates the policies of bush from mccain (2008) because there is no difference between the two. sanford, like the old mccain, has the reputation for being a maverick and bucking the party line for the sake of his principles. i think sanford is personally troubled by how his old friend has morphed into gwb. despite the fact that sanford was very prominent in mccain’s campaign in 2000, he did not endorse mccain nor anyone else during this year’s primary. his mistake was allowing himself to put up as a mccain surrogate when he is not enthusiastic about the policies that mccain wants to continue.”

    Good point on watching the governors more closely. They’re a reliable farm team.

  11. dog's eye view

    Here’s that Time magazine roundup on governors from 3 years ago yesterday.

    And I still have never heard much about Nevada Governor Kenny Guinn! But most others are familiar names to you. The other 4 “best” governors are nationally known now; the other 2 worst governors are off the public nickel.

    From November 13, 2005 issue:

    “New York � TIME Magazine names the five best governors in America in this week�s issue (on newsstands Monday, November 14th). The five best include: Kenny Guinn of Nevada, Mike Huckabee of Arkansas, Janet Napolitano of Arizona, Kathleen Sebelius of Kansas and Mark Warner of Virginia. TIME also names the nation�s worst governors: Louisiana governor Kathleen Blanco, Ohio governor Bob Taft and South Carolina governor Mark Sanford.”,8599,1129509,00.html

  12. dnd

    Here’s a thoughful piece Sanford wrote for Columbus, SC paper:

    I bet he secretly voted for Obama 😉

    Note Sanford graduated from the prestigious Furman University. He’s no dummy. I saw him discuss finance on CNBC. He knows his stuff.

  13. dnd

    I’m with you. I think Sen Clinton has a much better future in the Senate. Unless she doesn’t think she may be reelected to her Senate seat or she wants to retire in the next couple of years, why would she want a cabinet position?

  14. dog's eye view

    continuing today’s Mark Sanford thread:

    he was just elected Chairman of the Republican Governor’s Assn; Haley Barbour is Vice Chair. Sanford’s relieving Texas Gov. Rick Perry.

    Do only southerners count in the RGA?

    Notes that Sanford is term limited out; he’s done in 2011. Hmmmm.

  15. dog's eye view

    blog ate my NYT link: Sanford just elected chair of GOP Governors Association. Sent email to Brian asking he free it….

  16. dog's eye view

    SC’s The State newspaper on Sanford selection:

  17. Nannymm

    Hillary is in no danger here in NY. Her approval rating is above 60 percent. She is even more popular now than before in upstate NY. So re-election won’t be a problem. As for her retiring, I don’t see it. There is still too much she wants to accomplish.

  18. dnd

    I left out Haley Barbour in the mix. A very powerful governor, but too much of the current camp.

  19. horsedooty

    Dog, there are more Repug Governors from the south than anywhere else.

  20. dnd

    I don’t think Hillary is in any danger of losing NY. But in her previous two elections she spent an ton of money to win against a couple of losers. Her presidential bid raised her profile. But if the Republicans spent some money and put up a credible candidate, one never knows…

  21. chefsheila

    I really think all of the last generation is out. dnd has a good list of newbys that are promising.

    With the trouncing that they took this time around, they need to take a step back and get a grip, just like the Dems did in 1994

  22. Nannymm

    dnd…anything is possible, of course. But I know this state well. The prevailing mood here when it comes to repugs is, “Thanks, but NO thanks!” For the most part, Hillary spent so much in her prior senate races, not because she had to, but because she was letting it be known that she could raise the bucks for a credible presidential run. Her heavy expenditures were a shot across the bow to her competitors for ’08. It would have worked had Obama not entered the race.

  23. Nannymm

    In all the talk about possible republicans to emerge as party leaders, has anyone considered Jeb Bush? While his last name is a huge handicap, he is one of a very few republicans that is highly thought of by all the factions within the party.

  24. Nannymm

    They aren’t even going to wait for Obama to be sworn in. The fight for health care is on.

    Drugmaker ads to target Obama idea
    Lobbyist readies for prescription price fight

  25. chefsheila

    That’s wonderful what Obama has done. So many of his staff are going to have a horrible time finding work in this climate.

  26. chefsheila

    You know, I saw that about health care the other day and thought….GOOD!! Its going to be a long fight anyway. might as well start now. Getting the legislation written and vetted by congressional lawyers will take the rest of this year and so it will be ready to debate and all the rot, by the time we are through the inaugural.

  27. Nannymm

    Good point, Sheila. But the other side’s arguments are so tiresome!

  28. horsedooty

    Dnd, not to make light of your article as it is very well done. We have become used to that. But…I really don’t care who the Repubs put up in 2012. I think the Repub party is in the last gasps for a long time. They have proven time and time again they cannot and will not govern the country. They are only interested in how much money they can steal for themselves.

  29. dnd

    That’s why I like Daniels & Sanford. But they need to get other Republicans to repudiate what the Republicans have become.

  30. dnd

    Obama is in bit of a conundrum. If he picks Clinton for SOS, it’s a big dis to Richardson and to the Hispanics who supported him. On the plus side he doesn’t have to worry about her in 2012. Unless she goes off on her own or does a bad job and he has to can her, which comes with it’s own problems.

    Richardson would be a dis to the Clinton camp.

    This whole mess might be good for Kerry.

  31. chefsheila

    Obama is proving day by day that he is setting up a very strong administration. He’s been working on it for a month now.

    I’m hearing the the transition team for State will be in place on Monday. They were looking at their rooms at State today.

    I just don’t think the country can afford politics as usual, so I’m willing to let the cards fall where they will.

    I don’t think anyone will feel dist, because I think Obama is going to reach out to all parties and give them something to do.

    I Richardson did not become State, why not the coveted UN ambassador? Kerry is set to become Senior Senator from Massechusetts.

    Clinton is going to keep her great senate seat if she doesn’t become State.

    I guess what I’m trying to convey is, we are in enough trouble. ALL HANDS ON DECK!

  32. dnd

    I’ve been thinking about your comments about Jeb Bush. Between the thin skinned 41 and the thick headed 43, we’re all pretty Bushed out.

    However Jeb would appeal to Hispanics, Catholics and moderates. He seems to be a pretty level headed guy. Interesting idea.

  33. dnd

    Richardson’s already been Ambassador to the UN. Energy or Interior might be a dis, particularly if Hillary is selected. Hillary is pretty much wedged for advancement in the Senate. I think Hillary would be great at HHS, but I think she’d be happier, and more powerful in the Senate. And she wouldn’t have to deal with Bill’s baggage.

    Obama’s gonna need the wisdom of Solomon. If he manages to pull this off and keep everybody happy, I’ll feel pretty damned confident in his ability to lead.

  34. chefsheila

    You know, Jeb Bush is 10 times what his brother is. I’m really sorry GW made it practically impossible for him.

    Not to say I would want him in, but Jeb would not have done this to the country. So lesser of the two

  35. chefsheila


    Just watching Paul Krugman……well! You like tall and furry. lol

  36. chefsheila

    Here is something of the utmost importance.

    Senate to Take up Auto Bailout on Monday

    Senate leaders will move ahead with talks despite uncertainty about Republican support.

  37. dog's eye view

    Betting pool on whether HRC will take SecState?

    I would say even odds; there are pluses and minuses and wonder if she would miss the Senate?

  38. Nannymm

    Isn’t it just as important, if not more so, to prevent the auto industry from failing as it was to prevent AIG from going under? If what I have heard is correct, 1 in 10 people is in some way tied, either directly or indirectly, to the auto industry. If Detroit goes under, the rise in unemployment will be enormous. And the damage to the economy will be catastrophic.

  39. Nannymm

    If it is offered, I suspect she will take it. Or to put it another way, I don’t think Obama will make a definite offer if Clinton hasn’t committed to accepting. Neither one wants to face a public rejection.

  40. chefsheila

    The Auto industry has countless droves of people employed.

    There is a real drepression style recession happening right now in the Detroit region. The State has no more unemployment insurance. GM has already had to drop its retiree’s 65 and older’s, health insurance…..its scary.

  41. dnd

    Interesting thoughts about Clinton as SOS on Hardball & 1600. Few positive for Sen. Clinton. Huffpo says she was offered the post. Wonder what KO will say. Wonder what David Ignacious will write.

  42. chefsheila

    It IS interesting. I knew a loooonngggggg time ago about his interest in Team Of Rivals, but I just could not imagine who. Now we are seeing the Obama imagination and its pretty big.

  43. chefsheila

    I have the utmost regard for Ignatious. I wonder why he has been a round for so long.

  44. dnd

    FYI, word is that Obama doesn’t like beets. No word if this includes beet greens. For someone so health conscious, he really needs to eat beets. He likes Mexican and pizza. They didn’t say if he likes Lou Malnati’s Chicago deep dish.

    The girls like Kraft Mac & Cheese. I like Mac & cheese too, but I prefer it with Gorgonzola or Greyere and Emmental.

  45. Nannymm

    All the negative insinuations about Hillary were quite annoying. She worked her butt off for Obama and has more than proven her loyalty. It’s counter productive for people to keep trying to assign negative motives to her. Furthermore, let Obama make his choices. He’s more than capable of doing what is right for his administration and the countyy, That’s why we elected him.

  46. Nannymm

    Now that’s my kind of Mac and Cheese, dnd!! And I’m with Obama. Beets are the ONLY veggie I don’t like.

  47. chefsheila

    I love beets! lol Well Bush senior hated Brocoli and loved Pork Rinds. But I happen to know he liked V-8 so he’s OK. 🙂

  48. chefsheila

    I make Pattis LaBelles Mac and Cheese. Its a no fail meal stopper.

    Patti LaBelle’s Over The Rainbow Mac and Cheese

  49. chefsheila

    …..LOL…..Watch out Brian!!!! There’s The Velveeta again!!! lol

  50. chefsheila

    lol Waterboarding John Kerry. lol

  51. dnd

    As with turnips and beets, I prefer the greens to the roots. I do like the roots, either raw or roasted.

    Years ago I had a girlfriend who’d make a Greyere and Emmental mac & cheese. Essentially a Swiss fondue, complete with the white wine and Kirsh, with macaroni. She put crispy bacon in it too and topped it with grated Romano. I figured she was trying to kill me, but I didn’t care. It was wonderful.

  52. dog's eye view

    wow that’s some delicious sounding Mac and Cheese. 4 cheeses, 5 if you count Velveeta (ersatz, but it does melt great). Plus a stick of butter.

    We gave up on Mac and Cheese a few years ago since the youngest generation swears by Stouffer’s and why fight it? But P LaBelle’s adults only recipe might be wonderful to try.

  53. dnd

    While I thought the Clinton’s support for Obama was originally pretty tepid, they really stepped it up near the end of the campaign. I’ll just take them for their word and not speculate as to their motivations.

    What I think is more newsworthy is that Ann Dunwoody has become the first female four star general. These are transformational times.

  54. chefsheila

    Time to make the Donuts people, have a great night.

  55. If you really want too know what Bush\Cheney has done in the name of the American People then watch these excerpts from an a posting called “A Ticket to The Hague for Dick Cheney?”.

    These video excerpts are from “Torturing Democracy” and “Taxi To The Dark Side”.

    Some remarks by Gene Burns.

    “I now believe that some international human rights organization ought to open an investigation of the Bush Administration, I think focused on Vice President Dick Cheney, and attempt to bring charges against Cheney in the international court of justice at The Hague, for war crimes. Based on the manner in which we have treated prisoners at Guantánamo Bay, and the manner in which we have engaged in illegal rendition–that is, surreptitiously kidnapping prisoners and flying them to foreign countries where they could be tortured by foreign agents who do not follow the same civilized standards to which we subscribe.”

    “And then I saw Torturing Democracy.”

    “And I believe that Dick Cheney is responsible. I believe that he was the agent of the United States government charged with developing the methodology used at Guantánamo Bay, supervising it for the administration, and indulging in practices which are in fact violations of human rights.”

    The administration did its best to spike both films. Taxi was to be aired on the Discovery Channel, but with Discovery Communications then in the process of going public and facing sensitive SEC clearances, executives apparently decided not to risk provoking the anger of the White House. As I reported elsewhere, PBS also found that it had no network space for Torturing Democracy until January 20, 2009—the day the Bush Administration decamps from Washington.

    “Why was the administration so concerned about these two films? The conversion of Gene Burns supplies the answer. No one who sits through these films, I believe, will be able afterwards to accept the official version of events. George Bush has good reason to be afraid of too many Americans watching these documentaries.”

    Since Bush\Cheney fear no accountability from either political party here at home since many members of both parties are complicit in both War Crimes and the cover up of War Crimes we can only pray that the International Community will bring them to trial.

    Take some time and watch these excerpts and see what was done in your name.

    God Bless.

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