I Think Joe Scarborough May Have Some Explaining To Do ~ Horsedooty

Why has Lori Klausutis’ Death Been Swept Under the Rug?

This article is the first in a series on t r u t h o u t which will present the known facts and raise some questions about this strange and tragic case.

Part I: Congressional Aide Found Dead in Congressman’s Office
By Jennifer Van Bergen

t r u t h o u t | January 4, 2001 – Remember the news back in July that Lori Klausutis, an aide to U.S. Representative Joe Scarborough (R-FL), was found dead in the congressman’s District Office in Fort Walton Beach, Florida?

If you don’t, that’s because the news came and went in the blink of an eye.

Wait. Did you get that? A congressman’s aide. Dead. In the congressman’s office. No witnesses.

And the media were all but silent.

While the Condit/Levy story ran rampant in the national press for weeks on end, the Scarborough/Klausutis story got barely nine lines in the Associated Press and only one line in The Washington Post.

Does it make you wonder?

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52 responses to “I Think Joe Scarborough May Have Some Explaining To Do ~ Horsedooty

  1. Ok doots, spill it, what do you know?

  2. Tedisco Tries To Make Roadkill Of Sam Seder’s Ballot

    We can now add another illustrious name to the list of absentee voters whose ballots in the NY-20 special election have been challenged by the campaign of GOP candidate Jim Tedisco: Sam Seder, the liberal talk-radio host with Air America

    http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/04/tedisco-tries-to-make-roadkill-of-sam-seders-ballot.php?ref=fp1

  3. Nannymm

    Hey, Doots, is there any new info about JS and that death? I’ve wondered about that incident for years. It seems like there is no info out there about the situation. But didn’t JS decide soon after that he wasn’t going to seek re-election?

  4. Nannymm

    This is an unbelievable quote. If accurate, JS has a very sick sense of humor.

    “On May 29, 2003, Scarborough appeared on Don Imus’s radio show. While complimenting Scarborough on his sense of humor, Imus said, “Don’t be afraid to be funny, because you are funny. I asked you why you aren’t in Congress. You said that you had sex with the intern, and then you had to kill her.” Scarborough laughed and replied, “Yeah, well, what are you gonna do?”
    http://www.larryflynt.com/notebook.php?id=17

  5. dog's eye view

    Paul Krugman’s column today. I agree with every word of it, and you may too.

    “Reclaiming America’s Soul”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/24/opinion/24krugman.html?_r=1&ref=opinion

    “… there are indeed immense challenges out there: an economic crisis, a health care crisis, an environmental crisis. Isn’t revisiting the abuses of the last eight years, no matter how bad they were, a luxury we can’t afford?

    No, it isn’t, because America is more than a collection of policies. We are, or at least we used to be, a nation of moral ideals. In the past, our government has sometimes done an imperfect job of upholding those ideals. But never before have our leaders so utterly betrayed everything our nation stands for.

    …. you might argue — and many do — that revisiting the abuses of the Bush years would undermine the political consensus the president needs to pursue his agenda.

    But the answer to that is, what political consensus? There are still, alas, a significant number of people in our political life who stand on the side of the torturers. But these are the same people who have been relentless in their efforts to block President Obama’s attempt to deal with our economic crisis and will be equally relentless in their opposition when he endeavors to deal with health care and climate change. The president cannot lose their good will, because they never offered any.”

    ====

    Krugman goes on to note that our elite media and political establishment might also prefer to “move on”, since they were complicit in Bush-Cheney’s wrongdoings, by omission or commission.

    Printing this one out. It’s a keeper.

  6. dog's eye view

    I’m not sure what the Obama admin eventually wants to see on torture investigations. They often have a longterm view and have used rope-a-dope or waited for more favorable circumstances.

    Perhaps they know a consensus to fully investigate and prosecute will come about once the Senate Intelligence Committee (and others) have done preliminary work. (And perhaps Obama has just plain erred in not wanting to take a crack at prosecuting the preceding administration.)

    Feinstein has said she’s concerned about how much can be disclosed publicly, given use of classified intelligence, but that seems the wrong tack. It protects bad actors — Democrats as well as GOP here — who rolled over when they should not have.

    I think that, in initially broaching a truth and reconciliation approach to the abuses of the Bush-Cheney-Addington-Yoo-Bybee years, Obama is applying the wrong pattern.

    It’s one thing to do truth and reconciliation when you have a political society that has progressed to the stage where it’s a valuable tool for understanding, healing, and moving forward.

    We have here a political society that regressed. Abused the rule of law and our Constitution. And set a monstrous precedent.

    Sterner measures are called for, and one hopes our legal system is up to the task. (If our political system — including the CYA crowd on every side of the aisle — does not intervene too much.)

    Here’s a NYTimes article on possible approaches, which I’d suspect you’ve already put up on this blog and discussed. (I’ve been offline a lot this week.)

    Obama Resisting Push for Interrogation Panel

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/24/us/politics/24cong.html?ref=politics

    The giveaway line, though. First sentence:

    “The White House and the Democratic leadership in the Senate signaled on Thursday that they would block FOR NOW any effort to establish an independent commission to investigate the Bush administration’s approval of harsh interrogation techniques.”

    I wonder if they are playing for more time for information to come out, and perhaps Cheney or someone else to say some really strange things that will help pique public interest. Their concern might be timing, not eventual investigation and full prosecution.

  7. horsedooty

    https://clistersbackchannel.wordpress.com/2009/04/23/i-think-joe-scarborough-may-have-some-explaining-to-do-horsedooty/#comment-23539

    No Nannymm, I don’t have any new information about the death or circumstances surrounding the death of Joe’s intern.

    I just thought that Joe got off scott free and I decided that we all ought to remind as many people as we can as often as we can. Look for more posts from me that try to do that. I believe that there are too many unasked questions about this unfortunate woman’s death.

    Joe resigned from Congress about 3 months into his second term after he was re-elected. This was shortly after Lori’s body was found in his Florida office.

  8. dnd

    dog,
    Krugman’s piece would have made a lot more sense had not the Prez come out and said he was not ruling out prosecution.

    Your 8:06 comment seems to make a lot more sense, if we’re trying to guess what’s going on behind the scenes.

  9. dnd

    Doots,
    Joe Scarborough gets away with murder every morning!

  10. dog's eye view

    always good to see a post by Sr. Doots, but isn’t it cruel and unusual to go from Roy Orbison to Joe Scarborough?

    Bring back Roy!

  11. dog's eye view

    Al Gore testifying live on C-Span 1 now. House Energy and Commerce Subcommittee hearing on Climate Change Legislation.

    Believe I heard former Sen. John Warner also on first panel.

  12. horsedooty

    I started to write that I thought Joe was a murderer but chickened out. There I said it.

  13. dnd

    I read the torture memos last night. Ok, full disclosure, I scanned them while watching “The Office” and “30 Rock.” I had two impressions:

    1. It seemed to be a little cat-and-mouse game where the CIA’s legal branch was describing the aggressive interrogation techniques and asking if they were legal and the Office of Legal Council was saying the techniques “as you describe them” were just hunky dory. Both parties were doing a CYA. However I wonder if a junior staffer could have done a LexusNexus search on “waterboarding” and found precedent.

    2. I thought it curious that the memos were classified as Top Secret. They didn’t seem to rate that level. Pretty clear that the administration didn’t want anybody to see them.

  14. dog's eye view

    Watching House hearing. Jane Harman looks glad to see someone else in the hot seat.

    And Gore is making so much sense. Snappy moving through overview. Not droning on.

  15. “I started to write that I thought Joe was a murderer but chickened out.”

    Thank god, since it’s my name on the blog I’m the one who would be sued for libel!

    🙂

  16. dog's eye view

    John Warner: on oversimplication of issues by advertising.

    “We see these attractive actors and actresses saying “Clean Coal is right around the corner.”

    We know it’s not around the corner.”

  17. dog's eye view

    Doug J of Balloon Juice, on Ben Smith’s Politico story re former campaign managers Steve Schmidt and David Plouffe appearance at U Delaware.

    http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=20403

    Doug J’s take: “I thought this nugget in Ben Smith’s piece on Steve Schmidt’s and David Plouffe’s view of the presidential race was quite interesting:

    [from Politico]: He (Schmidt) also explained his decision to deny Palin an election night speech as a nod to the fact that the concession is a “singular moment” in American public life.

    “It begins the process by which power is transferred peacefully,” he said. [End]

    Is Schmidt implying that Palin would have given an incendiary speech that would have, in some small way, disrupted the peaceful transfer of power? I don’t disagree but it’s an interesting admission, to say the least, if I’m interpreting it correctly.

  18. dog's eye view

    Bill Maher op ed in today’s LATimes.

    The GOP: divorced from reality

    http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-maher24-2009apr24,0,6983740.story

    …”That’s what you are, [GOP], the bitter divorced guy whose country has left him — obsessing over it, haranguing it, blubbering one minute about how much you love it and vowing the next that if you cannot have it, nobody will.

    But it’s been almost 100 days, and your country is not coming back to you. She’s found somebody new. And it’s a black guy.

    The healthy thing to do is to just get past it and learn to cherish the memories. You’ll always have New Orleans and Abu Ghraib.”

  19. dog's eye view

    dnd: good for you for reading the memos. Haven’t gotten to any of the primary documents yet, but will. (Someday…)

    Interesting take on them.

    Am just glad this is coming out. It landed with a whimper the first time. And the second time.

  20. good catch on that Bill Maher piece dog.

  21. dog's eye view

    Knew you would like it, Brian!

    Missing Maher’s show makes me sad we don’t have HBO. (Planning to catch up on their good original series with DVD. Um. Someday. Right after those torture memos…)

  22. Greetings from the desert where it will only be 88 today after several days of near or above 100. Probably won’t need the a/c today.

    Dog, if you want to see an interesting article on the role of the media during the last eight years or so, see Glenn Greenwold over at Salon.com. He takes the M$M to task for the complicity and their favoring their sources over journalistic integrity.

    Good for you, dnd, for your both reading the OLC memos and for your analysis of them. Well done. Were you a lawyer in your previous or current life?

  23. I’ve added Liz, daughter of Dick to our wall of shame, peeps if you have vids you’d like added to the wall please email them to me!

  24. dog's eye view

    Thanks eprof. Bookmarked the Greenwald article yesterday. Looks very worth the read.

    Marsha Blackburn is accusing Al Gore of making $$$ off climate change.

    Class. That party has nothing but class.

    Markey, immediately following: “A prophet is being honored today. He won a Nobel Prize.”

    Rep. Sutton of Ohio: begins her questioning by regretting the hearing has turned into personal (invective? — cannot remember her precise word.)

  25. dog's eye view

    Introducing Howard Wooldridge. From “The Sleuth” online column in WaPost.

    “Howard Wooldridge has one of the craziest jobs: trying to convince 535 of the most uptight people in Washington – the entire membership of Congress – to legalize drugs. That means everything from marijuana to cocaine to heroin.

    The idea isn’t quite as far-fetched as you may think. The more money the United States spends on fighting a drug war that has spiraled out of control in Mexico, the more interest Congress seems to be taking in talk of decriminalization.

    “For the first time since I’ve been here, the “L” word, legalization, has been used in subcommittee hearings as a solution to the violence and Mexican cartels,” says Wooldridge, a cowboy and retired police detective who three years ago became the lobbyist for Law Enforcement Against Prohibition, known as LEAP.

    A handful of lawmakers have endorsed legalization of marijuana, including Reps. Loretta Sanchez (D-Calif.), Jim McDermott (D-Wash.), Dana Rohrabacher (R-Calif.) and Ron Paul (R-Texas).

    Their group will likely remain small. …”

    Mary Ann Akers’ column, with video.

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/sleuth/2009/04/_howard_wooldridge_has_one.html?hpid=artslot

  26. dnd

    eprof2,
    Not a lawyer. Just got tired of all the uninformed commentary and decided to check it out for myself. How this legally falls out is anybody’s guess. It’s clear that there’s more to the story than that illuminated by the OLC memos. Gonna be interesting to see what the Senate Intelligence Committee has to say.

    In a related matter, Fox’s Shep Smith on torture:

    I’m guessing he’s angling for a job on CNN or MSNBC 😉

  27. dnd

    dog,
    I agree w/Brian. That catch of the Bill Maher piece was great.

    I’ll have a somewhat (ok, marginally) related post on Sunday. Stay tuned 😉

  28. dnd

    “NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) — General Motors is preparing to announce that the Pontiac car brand, once marketed as GM’s “Excitement division,” will be killed off, according to a source familiar with the decision.”

    http://money.cnn.com/2009/04/24/autos/pontiac_obit/

    Why do they hate America?

  29. Nannymm

    dnd, Here is that Senate Report:

    INQUIRY INTO THE TREATMENT
    OF DETAINEES IN U.S. CUSTODY
    http://armed-services.senate.gov/Publications/Detainee%20Report%20Final_April%2022%202009.pdf

    It’s 263 pages. I’m only about 50 pages in. I’ll let you know what I think when I’m finished. But so far, it’s pretty damning.

  30. Nannymm

    Tedesco just conceded in NY’s 20th!!

  31. Democrats’ Budget Deal Sets Up Fight on Health Plan

    Principals in the talks acknowledged that a tentative budget agreement reached Thursday night between Congressional leaders and the White House would provide for the use of an obscure procedure known as a reconciliation on a health care bill, allowing health care legislation that meets budget targets to be approved by a simple Senate majority.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/25/us/politics/25budget.html?8au&emc=au

    Fucking right! enough of this 60 vote bullshit!

  32. dog's eye view

    Yippee. Democrat Murphy just officially won NY-20 congressional district seat vacated by K Gillibrand. GOP challenger Tedisco has just conceded.

    Norm Coleman? You paying attention out there?

  33. dog's eye view

    So: where does that leave Michael Steele?

    (Actually, I wonder if that seat was even winnable for the GOP this year. They are too far off the reservation.)

  34. Nannymm

    If they couldn’t win that seat with their HUGE (78,ooo) registration advantage, they may as well pack up and go home. The 20th is probably the most repug/conservative district in this state. At least, it was…. 😀

  35. Nannymm

    Hey! I’ve been gone most of the day. But you guys have been posting great links. Now I have them all open in tabs. Guess I have a bit more reading to do. 😉

    P.S. Slow down so I can catch up!

  36. Sweet, nanny you got a link for that?

  37. The repugs are really petrified of the torture issue, really scared.

  38. dnd

    Nannymm,
    I was referring to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, the bunch that oversees the intelligence community, e.g., the CIA.

    I read the first few pages of the Armed Services report from your link. Chilling.

  39. dnd

    Just turned on the tube. On Hardball Tweety has a guest, Tyler Drumheller, former CIA chief of European Ops. Excellent perspective on the value of torture. If you missed it, check the repeat.

  40. Sorry, off topic…

    As I’m sure everyone is aware that Keith Olbermann challenged Hannity to follow up with his words that he would be waterboarded to prove it wasn’t torture.

    I say lets help Keith with his challenge so here goes my idea.

    I say that we start a internet call for anyone who wants to see Hannity waterboarded to prove it is not torture to donate a $1 a second for every second he lasts.

    Lets see if we can get a couple hundred thousand people to sign up and let Hannity know that if he is not a coward and follows through on his word that the soldiers or his favorite charity would receive several hundred thousand dollars for his proving that waterboarding is not torture.

    Then we could all watch him squirm as he tries to get out of doing what he said he would do. At that point we could all start calling him a coward in public and see if he is humiliated or not.

    And if he does follow through, to see him being waterboarded would be worth the couple dollars it would cost to watch on tape or live as he’s being waterboarded for those few seconds he would be able to take.

    Anyone want to pass my suggestion on this around please feel free to do so.

    God Bless.

  41. I brought the death up in a email to the show this morning amongst other things this morning. They must think I’m a real nut when I send one telling them how I feel about Joe.

    I got so pissed that I said I hoped he would die.

    Now that ‘s another sin I have to ask forgiveness for.

    God Bless.

  42. horsedooty

    excellent idea Anon P. Count me in for a couple of dollars.

  43. Hi dooty…

    This idea needs to be passed around the web and then we would need it to go viral. You know like the pictures from Abu Ghraib went when they came out.

    I posted this on a few sites and would really like to see Hannity waterboarded. Lets see the big mouth show everyone what type of man he really is.

    Is he all talk and no action or is he a man of his word? The whole intertubes world wants to know.

    Catch you all later. Take care and …

    God Bless.

  44. Very cool idea, lets shame that asshole into it!

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