Opening the Door to a Clean Energy Economy

Good for the economy. Good for the environment.  Cutting off the oil money to terrorists and dictators.  What’s not to like?
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41 responses to “Opening the Door to a Clean Energy Economy

  1. Steve

    My dog Lady claims this thread and all its tributaries for Norway. I also enter into a treaty with her for Ireland and the USA.

    I will be watching the news to see how the situations in Iran and Honduras are shaping up. Its hard for me to diagnose the situation in Honduras. It looks like the entire world is condemning the ouster of the President, but it also appears he is a bad guy who was intent on setting up a dictatorship. It also seems that the majority of people there simply wanted him gone.

    If fuel efficiency standards are set in place, I don’t see a problem with a bill. We need it!

  2. Steve

    State Department conference call about Honduras (nice)

    http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2009/06a/125453.htm

  3. AmeRICANInSURGEnt

    You people need to pull your head out of the darkness that is Obamas ass and realize there is no two party system. WTF is wrong with you? Did any of you read this bill? No you didnt,because the senate was’nt allowed to read it,and yet you praise it. Are you aware that 300 pages were added to the bill at 3:05 am?? You probably praised the Patriot Act also. But hey what do I know,Im under the impression we lived under the rules of the constitution.

  4. dnd

    AmeRICANInSURGEnt,

    Um, the Senate has been allowed to read it. In fact, they have yet to vote on it.

  5. Steve, part of the "sheeple"

    I am always persuaded by misuse of punctuation and phrases like ” the darkness that is Obamas ass .” I also like being talked down to.

  6. dog's eye view

    Paul Krugman today on the climate change deniers:

    “But if you watched the [House] debate on Friday, you [saw] … people who show no sign of being interested in the truth. They don’t like the political and policy implications of climate change, so they’ve decided not to believe in it — and they’ll grab any argument, no matter how disreputable, that feeds their denial.

    … he opponents of the climate bill made a point of misrepresenting the results of studies of the bill’s economic impact, which all suggest that the cost will be relatively low.

    … [Bush admin claims of terrorism’s “existential threat” was “hyberbole” … but the existential threat from climate change is all too real.]

    Yet the deniers are choosing, willfully, to ignore that threat, placing future generations of Americans in grave danger, simply because it’s in their political interest to pretend that there’s nothing to worry about. If that’s not betrayal, I don’t know what is. ”

    Krugman: “Betraying the Planet”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/29/opinion/29krugman.html?ref=opinion

    =========

    Why can’t we get more adults back into politics?

    There is less and less actual honest debate on the existence of climate change.

    Were our political reps honest and sane, they would take the likelihood of climate change into account, and work to protect us and mitigate the damage. If the threat turns out to have been less severe, we are still ahead of the game, and prudent in our approach.

    It’s all zero sum game. Professor Peter Morici on CSpan’s Washington Journal yesterday. His argument: what difference does it make if US complies with greenhouse gas restrictions when China does not and will not, and accounts — in long run — for more of the damage?

    Um, because you have to start somewhere? And because we have a more developed economy and allegedly more open form of government? Because it’s better to get onto the more sustainable path, despite short-term obstacles?

    Ideology — particularly failed ideology — coupled with short-term thinking is going to kill us.

    What happened to being stewards for future generations?

    Or just plain adults, willing to admit we live in a very complicated world?

  7. Steve

    Very thoughtful, DEV.

  8. Breaking News Alert
    The New York Times
    Monday, June 29, 2009 — 10:16 AM ET
    —–

    Justices Rule for White Firefighters in Bias Case

    The Supreme Court ruled on Monday that white firefighters in
    New Haven, Conn., were unfairly denied promotions because of
    their race, reversing a decision that Sonia Sotomayor, a
    Supreme Court nominee, endorsed as an appeals court judge.

  9. The battle over this energy bill is going to be just as ugly in the Senate as health care reform will be. Expect the Newsmax crowd to go ballistic over this one! AmeRICANInSURGEnt is just one small example of what we can expect.

  10. Steve

    havent read the hufflink yet but will. I am not so sure this was a coup. It may actually have been a case of the army removing a potential dictator in accordance with their laws. I am not saying thats the case, I am just trying to understand it. Thanks for the link, Brian.

  11. dnd

    Spot on dog. I’ve often thought that the lay person should think of climate change science similarly to Pascal’s wager:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_Wager

    It’s not a complete match, but close enough.

    I don’t understand why the Boner says this is a jobs killing bill. If we get the jump on renewable energy, that’s gonna be great for our economy.

  12. nannymm

    Good morning, everyone. I’m looking for the ruling in the new Haven case right now. I want to read that decision for myself. According to Pete Williams the SC essentially created a new “rule” with their decision. Hmmm…. Isn’t that “judicial activism?”

  13. nannymm

    Good points, dog’s eye.

  14. “judicial activism”

    Just about every appeals and supreme court ruling is!

  15. nannymm

    That’s my point, Brian. The repugs, however, will deny that THIS decision is judicial activism. To them, only decisions that favor a liberal position are judicial activism. When a ruling goes their way, it’s “original intent.” Bullshit, I say.

  16. I know dear, I was backing you up!

  17. Breaking News Alert
    The New York Times
    Monday, June 29, 2009 — 11:37 AM ET
    —–

    Madoff Sentenced to 150 Years in Prison

    Bernard L. Madoff on Monday received the maximum sentence for
    perpetrating one of the biggest investment frauds in Wall
    Street history and will spend the rest of his life in prison.

  18. dnd

    If you look up “activist judge” in the dictionary, you’ll see a picture of Scalia.

  19. and what dictionary would that be?

    😉

  20. dnd

    Has MSNBC “jumped the shark?” “Morning Meeting” with Dylan Ratigan? “Dr. Nancy” with Dr. Nancy?

    The best was when I turned on the tube this morning and Mika Brzezinski was interviewing Rudy Giuliani. As I was about to change the channel, she asked him if Mark Sanford should resign. Unbelievable. Was she not aware of Giuliani’s own infidelity, or was he booked as an expert on the subject?

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036789/#31609513

    Note the look of relief on Giuliani’s face when Mike Barnacle changed the subject to Madoff.

  21. Steve

    Brian, Thanks for posting the Milibank-Nico X Change. Interesting. Watched the whole thing. Good catch.

    Millibank I can take but the little Rev. Moon reporter was a bit much…

  22. nannymm

    LOL, dnd. That proves a point I made here a few weeks ago. Mika is either an idiot or too cutie by half. We New Yorkers (and like it or not, she is one of us) are all too aware of the extramarital escapades of Rudy. We were bombarded with the details day in and day out for months. IMO he qualifies as an expert for sure.

  23. Steve I can’t take credit for the find, I found it on another blog, http://trueslant.com/davidknowles/2009/06/29/dana-milbank-vs-nico-pitney-old-media-loses-again/.

    I just wonder how upset Milbank was over Jeff Gannon being included in the White House press briefing room.

  24. “Apparently, Dana whispered “You’re such a dick” to Pitney during a break, and thanks to that (and Twitter), he will forever be known by the sobriquet “Dick Whisperer”. Fifty was right – A-Yo Technology, indeed (I’m not actually sure what that means). ”

    http://trueslant.com/childers/2009/06/29/monday-jargon-round-up/#comment-215

  25. Steve

    Good west Coast blog I frequent:

    http://polizeros.com

  26. dnd

    Former San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown on Michael Jackson:

    I got into a cab Friday, and the driver asked, “Was Michael Jackson a Republican?”

    “I don’t think so. Why?”

    “He managed to knock both that two-timing South Carolina governor and that two-timing, Bible-thumping senator from Nevada off the front page. Republicans haven’t gotten that much help from a black man since Sammy Davis Jr. hugged Richard Nixon.”

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/06/27/BA4E18EETO.DTL

  27. dnd

    Dana Milbank has Matt Drudge envy.

  28. nannymm

    dnd, I agree with you about DM. As for the cab driver, smart guy. 😉

  29. dnd

    “A good day is the day I don’t have to think about Bernie Madoff or the fact that I lost almost our entire life’s savings.”

    — Tom Tancredo

    http://www.kdvr.com/news/kdvr-madofftancredo-062909,0,1281910.story

    Karma?

  30. Amazing how much Sanford’s mistress resembles his wife, the man definitely has a type.

  31. Steve

    Dnd- I am sure Mr. Tancredo is fully in favor of the govt not interfering with the free market. Investment involves risk! Hands off, feds….

    Just joking, of course, i dont see to see any person victimized, including those with whom I disagree.

  32. luvdat-tryannyusastyle

    I love the faith you all have put in mainstream medi , as if it were un-bias and a fair . Between 1964-1972 the sunlight hitting US soil diminished by 1.3% and the NOAA revealed an average ground temperature drop int the northern hemisphere by half a degree between 1945-1968 the next ice age was upon us all , Newsweek had an article as many other mainstream medi sources did on the cooling of the earth, well no ice age , thank god. Now just 30-40 years later , we are in grossed in global heating , even though our CO2 levels are lower than they were between 1857-1957 and many leading scientist have step up and reported that even if our current level of CO2 was to double from now to 2100 we would only see a global temperature gain of 0.5C , which is not significant. CO2 makes up about 4parts of 10,000 and plays virtually no role in global warming. Water vapor plays a major role and i hope they don’t put some crazy tax on that because i personally exhale alot of water vapor. We have now changed course to human caused climate change, a better title , for now all climate change is encompassed and passed of as truth , and like terrorism, it is just another way of leading the sheeple to global government and an eroding of our founding principles and rights. Find out the truth , and you will realize the true intentions and it isn’t to better our lives and save all , BTW all 4 major agencies that track earth’s temperature reported in 2007 that the earth cooled 0.7C , and many independent university and scientific investigations have confirmed that the Planes hitting the world trade towers alone could not have caused its collapse. We are in grossed in a fight against our constitution and our founding principles , I challenge everyone who reads this gather information on both these issues and become involved and informed .

  33. luvdat-tryannyusastyle

    In addition , I would ask anyone willing to look into this global pandemic swine flu and be prepared for mandatory flu vaccinations which will lower your bodies temperature and cause your body to be less effective against fighting this manufactured flu outbreak. In addition i urge you all to look into who owns AP, Rueters , and the federal reserve all the same people and you will realize that, when you find out how the federal reserve works, we are funding our own demise and the presidency of the USA has been the tool of undermining our rights and liberty . If you dont believe me research President JFK and his secret society speech and his executive order 11110 stripping the federal reserve of its unconstitutional powers of making money and you will realize , he was our last champion of the people and so he was assassinated for trying awaken the sheeple and turn us back into proud, diligent, and involved US of A citizens.

  34. luvdat-tryannyusastyle

    “What luck for rulers that men don’t think” – Adolf Hitler

  35. luvdat-tryannyusastyle

    In 200 BC the Roman poet Juvenal wrote about the lamentable fact the masses had given up their birthright of political involvement and abdicated their duties for only two things — bread and circuses.

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