Reconciliation (enough with these people)!

 

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Congress used reconciliation to enact President Bill Clinton‘s 1993 (fiscal year 1994) budget. (See Pub.L. 103-66, 107 Stat. 312.) President Clinton wanted to use reconciliation to pass his 1993 health care plan, but Senator Robert Byrd (D-WVa) insisted that the health care plan was out of bounds for a process that is theoretically about budgets. However, on August 25, 2009, Senator Jeff Bingaman (D-NM), one of the members of the Senate Finance Committee’s "Gang of Six" bipartisan group to work on a health insurance reform bill in the Senate, has said that reconciliation may be used, is an acceptable option, and that he can support it.

Until 1996, reconciliation was limited to deficit reduction, but in 1996 the Senate’s Republican majority adopted a precedent to apply reconciliation to any legislation affecting the budget, even legislation that would increase the deficit.[3]

Under the administration of President George W. Bush, Congress used reconciliation to enact three major tax cuts. These tax cuts were set to lapse after 10 years to satisfy the Byrd Rule. Efforts to use reconciliation to open the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to oil drilling failed.

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  1. TempeBev

    Ditto, Ditto, Ditto!!!

  2. eprof2

    Ditto and some more! Even if reconciliation is a possibility, President Obama may have already given the store away in the slim hope that he can get a bill, any bill, with the heading Health Care on it. The bill now being debated is a mere shadow of itself when hopes for a single payer system started the downward slide to find sixty votes — what a mistake!

    • dnd

      Harry Reid (as Bluto) addressing his caucus on the health care bill:

      • dnd

        WASHINGTON—Computer technicians have found 22 million missing White House e-mails from the administration of President George W. Bush and the Obama administration is searching for dozens more days’ worth of potentially lost e-mail from the Bush years, according to two groups that filed suit over the failure by the Bush White House to install an electronic record keeping system.

        http://www.denverpost.com/ci_13994742#ixzz0ZhuIfiaT

        I wonder how many are forwarded jokes or Nigerian email scams…

  3. Breaking News Alert
    The New York Times
    Mon, December 14, 2009 — 11:27 PM ET
    —–

    U.S. Is Said to Pick Illinois Prison to House Some Guantánamo Detainees

    The Obama administration is expected to announce on Tuesday
    that it has selected a prison in northwestern Illinois to
    house terrorism suspects now being held at Guantánamo Bay,
    Cuba, in a major step toward shutting down the military
    detention facility.

    An administration official said President Obama had directed
    the federal government to proceed with acquiring the Thomson
    Correctional Center, a maximum-security prison in a rural
    village about 150 miles west of Chicago.

    • dnd

      Those detainees will be begging to go back to Gitmo. Those supermax prisons keep you locked up 23 hours a day, no interaction with other prisoners, no sunshine, no fresh air.

  4. dooty

    If reconciliation is the answer, the question for me is, is this the bill progressives would like to have? For me, no it is not. Single payer is the way to go. We all know it, so lets have it.

  5. dooty

    the question for me then, is

  6. eprof2

    When Senator Lieberman stated on Sunday that he was now opposed to the expanded Medicare although he was for it just three months ago, the chattering class has been wondering aloud as to why he keeps upping the ante for his vote.

    Like Mary Landrieu of Louisiana who got more than $100 million for her state and her vote on allowing the health care bill to move forward, the Senator from Israel, Joe Lieberman, is working with the White House for a better deal for his Israeli constituents.

    What could he be holding out for? Promises from the Obama administration to back off on their insistence of no more Jewish settlements in the West Bank, formerly Palestinian territory.

    So, with each “break through” on health care in the United States, Senator Lieberman says he’ll vote against the bill holding out for a stronger bargaining position. Ah, Hans Morgenthau and Henry Kissinger, the messengers of power politics, would be very pleased with their disciple.

    • dnd

      Well, clearly something’s up with Lieberman’s actions, due his reversal on an idea he’s proposed and championed since 2000.

      The Medicare buy-in may be a red herring. If they implement a non-profit that everybody can buy into, that could offer plans that would be less expensive than the estimated cost of the Medicare buy-in.

      Lieberman’s opposition may come back to bite him politically.

  7. That’s quite a leap you’re making their eprof and frankly one that makes me a bit uncomfortable in where you are going with that.

  8. nannymm

    I agree that JL is looking for something. I’m just not sure what the lousy bastard wants. Perhaps it’s revenge. Whatever it is, he needs to be taught a lesson. If the Dems don’t kick him out of their caucus and strip him of his chairmanship, I won’t donate another penny to the DSCC.

  9. nannymm

    This is why reconciliation is a poor substitute for a bill and should ONLY be a last resort:

    “Reconciliation is difficult and complicated, he [John Podesta]said, but “it definitely can be done.” Among the complications: it can only include provisions that directly relate to how much money the government spends and takes in. Insurance reforms such as banning exclusions of people who have pre-existing conditions would have to be in a separate bill, which would be subject to a filibuster. Finally, anything passed as part of a budget reconciliation bill would expire in 10 years unless it was renewed or revised.
    Podesta: Democrats Will Pass Health Bill With or Without Lieberman
    http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/12/14/podesta-democrats-will-pass-health-bill-with-or-without-lieberm/

  10. nannymm

    This is disgusting!
    New right-wing Christmas carol: ‘Illegals in my Yard.’
    http://thinkprogress.org/2009/12/14/christmas-song-parody-immigration/

  11. nannymm

    Hmm…. I guess it won’t let me embed the code here so you can listen to it. Must be in the trash, Brian. Can you free it?

  12. dooty

    Nanny,

    there is a player on the page of that link you sent so if anyone is dying to hear it.

  13. nannymm

    Yep, Doots. I was just trying to save you all the trouble.

  14. dooty

    nice try but no cigar… 🙂

  15. TempeBev

    News Alert
    02:35 PM EST Tuesday, December 15, 2009

    Breaking News: D.C. Council passes bill legalizing same-sex marriage

    The measure allowing gays and lesbians to marry in the city is approved 11-2 and will be sent to Mayor Adrian Fenty, who is expected to sign it before Christmas. The bill will become law next spring if, as expected, it survives a 30-day congressional review process.

    For more information, visit washingtonpost.com – http://link.email.washingtonpost.com/r/7CWL7Z/ZPDE7/00JI3L/HFVT5V/47R4J/7V/t

  16. nannymm

    Great news, Bev! It’s about time we won one.

  17. AmericanInSURGEnt

    eProf is starting to get the big picture…..

  18. AmericanInSURGEnt

    All I am going to say on this health care debate is..forget about all these little details and battles between the two parties. Instead lets see what the final result is after it passes. Then decide what it was all about. Treat it like a crime,follow the money trail. Like 9/11 ,who benefited the greatest? Was it “terrorists” or was it Halliburton/KBR,Blackwater/Xe,and every other private contractor? Cheneys stock options rose over 2000% and Blackwater/Xe went from 100k a year operation to multimillion. Im just sayin.

  19. AmericanInSURGEnt

    Whats the good news? Did the people throw the criminals out on lawn? Yaaay!!

  20. AmericanInSURGEnt

    Hey Brian heres some humanitarian work you might be interested in. I heard an interview with the spokesman/Chief for the 1200 Crow living in S.Dakota. He said “When they found gold in the Black Hills,they took them from us. When they built the Hydro Dam that dried up their water they told us we would have free power. Now they said if we paid them 2.5 million plus 20% we could have OUR land back.” He was crying. The power company has shut off all power to the people living on the reservation and will not even accept partial payments from the people to keep their power on. The unemployment rate is 80% on the reservation.
    He also said” I have sick people,elderly people,and children living here. How can they survive a S. Dakota winter with no power”?
    Here is an opportunity for Obama to do something for HIS citizens worthy of a “peace prize” instead of preaching to us that “war is fucking peace” .
    Please at least sign this petition.

    http://www.resistnet.com/profiles/blogs/crow-creek-rez-being?xg_source=activity

  21. AmericanInSURGEnt

    Oh and excuse the right wing site I got the article from,MSM dosnt cover this sort of thing.

  22. nannymm

    I signed it, AI. It’s despicable what this country has done and continues to do to Native Americans.

  23. AmericanInSURGEnt

    Thank you Nanny!

  24. Breaking News Alert
    The New York Times
    Tue, December 15, 2009 — 5:03 PM ET
    —–

    Shinnecock Tribe Meets Criteria for Federal Recognition

    The Obama administration said Tuesday that the Shinnecock
    Indian Nation of Long Island had met the necessary criteria
    for federal recognition, signaling the end of a more than
    30-year court battle and clearing a path for the tribe to
    build a casino in New York City or its suburbs.

    The decision all but assures the tribe’s federal recognition,
    though there is still a required public comment period that
    will take place before final recognition is granted.

  25. AmericanInSURGEnt

    Your point?

  26. Breaking News Alert
    The New York Times
    Tue, December 15, 2009 — 4:37 PM ET
    —–

    Oral Roberts, Evangelist and University Founder, Dies at 91

    Oral Roberts, the charismatic Pentecostal evangelist whose
    televised ministry attracted millions of followers worldwide
    and made him one of the most recognizable and controversial
    religious leaders of the 20th century, died Tuesday in
    Newport Beach, Calif. He was 91. The cause was complications
    of pneumonia, said Melany Ethridge, a spokeswoman for Mr.
    Roberts.

    At the height of his influence, Mr. Roberts sat at the head
    of a religious, educational and communications enterprise
    based in Tulsa, Okla., that managed a university, conducted
    healing “crusades” on five continents, preached the gospel on
    prime-time national television and published dozens of books
    and magazines.

  27. AmericanInSURGEnt

    The point of your Indian post. Do I really need to explain that?

  28. I post Times alerts that I find interesting or effect me directly. My post was nothing more than that.

  29. nannymm

    I was just about to post that same alert. I think it’s good news for theShinnecock Tribe; hopefully, it will enable them to generate some income for the tribe.

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