Ben Nelson: Healthcare Progressive?

As part of the deal to get Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.) to vote for cloture, he got a sweetheart deal forcing the federal government to pay for all of Nebraska’s Medicaid’s costs.  This has a lot a pols and pundits carping about how this was a bribe and how unfair it is to the rest of the other 49 states.

Was it a “bribe?”  No.  Congress critters do deals like this all the time.  Bribe’s are what they get from lobbyists to vote against the will of their constituents.  Is it unfair to other states?  Absolutely.  But this illustrates the inherent unfairness with Medicaid funding, forcing states to pony up for a federal mandate.

Maybe, just maybe, this deal will result in significant Medicaid reform, on the long march to real health care reform.



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21 responses to “Ben Nelson: Healthcare Progressive?

  1. Well here’s the way I see what Nelson did, first of all the anti-abortion he took was bullshit. Compared to what came out of the House the Senate’s anti-abortion amendment is pretty weak. I for one don’t have a problem with his securing additional funding for Nebraska’s Medicaid funding, it will make it much harder to deny other states additional funding for their programs and that’s a good thing.

  2. nannymm

    “I’ve got 30 percent African-American population, a lot of low-income African-Americans on Medicaid.”

    WTF does race have to do with getting Medicaid??? I think Lindsay Graham is just another bigot.

  3. nannymm

    “Freshman Dem Rep. Parker Griffith (D-AL) is reportedly about to announce that he’s switching parties and joining the GOP. Griffith ran and won the open seat left vacant by conservative Democrat Bud Cramer. Guess he’s probably a no on health…”

  4. nannymm

    This is really interesting:

    Poll: Public Still Doesn’t Like Health Care Bill — And Still Like Public Option, Medicare Buy-In

    A new Quinnipiac poll finds that a large majority of Americans continue to oppose the health care bill — and that two policies that have been dropped, the public option or the Medicare buy-in, which were both very popular.

    The poll finds 53% of respondents saying they mostly disapprove of the health care plan in Congress, to only 36% who approve. From the party internals, support is at 64%-22% among Democrats, 10%-83% among Republicans, and 30%-58% among independents.

    The now-departed public option, however, is supported by a 56%-38% majority, including a 54%-41% margin among independents. Also, the Medicare buy-in for Americans ages 55-64 was supported by 64%-30%, including 57%-36% among independents and even a 50%-44% margin among Republicans.—-and-still-like-public-option-medicare-buy-in.php?ref=mp

  5. nannymm

    This is one of the comments following the article I just posted. It’s pretty much what I suspected.

    “To account for the seeming disconnect between majority opposition to health care reform, but majority support for a “public option,” consider this post from Nate Silver
    about recent Ipsos/McClatchy poll,

    Ipsos, however, did something that no other pollster has done. They asked the people who opposed the bill why they opposed it: because they are opposed to health care reform and thought the bill went too far? Or because they support health care reform but thought the bill didn’t go far enough?

    It turns out that a significant minority of about 25 percent of the people who opposed the plan — or about 12 of the overall sample — did so from the left; they thought the plan didn’t go far enough.

    Ipsos also asked a parallel question of people who supported the plan: did any of them support the plan because they oppose health care reform and thought that the plan was sufficiently watered-down so as to “keep health care reform from happening”? A small number of people picked this response: about 10 percent of those in favor of the plan, or 3 percent of the entire sample.”

    • dnd

      I’m surprised (or maybe not) that the MSM hasn’t reported on the results of that Ipsos/McClatchy poll. It seems pretty intuitive to me, but all the chattering class wants to talk about is the percentage that are opposed to the bill.

  6. dooty

    I received this minutes ago from a friend that works for the IRS as an investigator.

    ” This just in from CNN..The Supreme Court has ruled there can’t be a Nativity Scene in the United States Capital this Christmas season. Not for any religious reason. They simply have not been able to find Three Wise Men in Washington. The search for a Virgin continues. There wasn’t any problem, however, finding enough asses to fill the stable.”

    for what it is worth, he sends it every year.

  7. nannymm

    That’s cute, Doots. I think I’ve heard it before but I still like it. 😀

  8. nannymm

    dnd, I’ve been wondering that same thing. If you look at the internals of that poll, it’s clear that a clear majority favor HCR. That doesn’t bode well for repugs in 2010. No matter how ticked progressives are, they will not vote repug. The real fear is that they will sit on their hands and stay home.

  9. nannymm

    This general is crazy:

    Open quoteAnyone who leaves this fight early because they made a personal choice that changed their medical status … is not in keeping with a key element of our ethos.Close quote

    * Maj. Gen. ANTHONY CUCOLO,
    * who is in charge of northern Iraq, makes getting pregnant or impregnating a fellow soldier an offense punishable by court-martial

    Read more:,26174,1949469,00.html#ixzz0aRs4FDTz

  10. nannymm

    Washington (CNN) – Support for the health care reform bill that Democrats are pushing through the Senate has risen six points since early December, according to a new national poll, and although a majority of Americans still oppose its passage, only four in ten agree with Senate Republicans that the bill is too liberal.

    The CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey, released Monday, also indicates that President Barack Obama’s approval rating has experienced a similar six-point rise.

  11. dooty

    is it just me or wtf? It is my limited understanding the way bills become law in this land is for the House bill and the Senate bill to be mashed together into one bill? Then we have a Health Care bill, right? So what is the whining about until we have a bill that is sent to the President to sign? Until then we don’t have a bill. Right? I would bet that neither bill will look like either does now.

  12. yes you have the process right doots, people just like to whine. BTW the repugs have surrendered, the final vote has been moved to 8:00 AM instead of in the evening on the 24th. This goose is almost cooked!

  13. nannymm

    Actually, we have two bills, a House bill and a senate bill, right now. After reconciliation, we’ll have the final bill which becomes law as soon as Obama signs it.

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