It’s Kagan

 

President Obama will nominate Solicitor General Elena Kagan as the nation’s 112th justice, choosing his own chief advocate before the Supreme Court to join it in ruling on cases critical to his view of the country’s future, Democrats close to the White House said.

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  1. dog's eye view

    Woo hoo.

    Sound pick. What’s not to like? Someone will find something.

    Let the hearings begin and please let a new Justice be seated by the next SC term.

  2. eProf2

    I don’t think liberals and progressives are going to be real thrilled with this nomination. She has no judicial bench experience, she has a really bad record on affirmative action, and very little else is known about her. She is the Obama “stealth” pick. IMHO she will move the court to right of center. But, I could be wrong as you never know where a justice will come down on the law once they have a life-time appointment.

  3. dog's eye view

    Move that court right of center? You think?

    Although it’s true that you never know what you’re getting with SC nominees.

    Good on Earl Warren and David Souter for that.

  4. Her record on gay rights issues is outstanding, I can live with her.

  5. dog's eye view

    Lena Horne has died at 92. Beautiful woman. She saw a lot of change in her lifetime.

    I wonder if she is still PJ O’Rourke’s mother in law. They were related somehow, by marriage.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/10/AR2010051000091_pf.html

  6. Morning peeps, wow sad about Lena Horne.

  7. dog's eye view

    She was grandmother of PJ O’Rourke’s first wife. Fixed that.

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  9. ah, that truly warms the cockles of my heart d!

  10. nannymm

    It makes me want to puke, dnd.

    As for Kagan, once again, I agree with eprof. I don’t think she is a liberal or progressive at all. She is right of center on many of the issues that relate to terrorism and the Patriot Act, as well as affirmative action. She is a disappointing pick IMO. My only hope is that once she assumes the bench she will shift to the left. But I’m not counting on it. All in all, I’m disappointed in Obama.

  11. Me too nanny but I think she’s a pretty safe choice. She neither thrills me or disappointments me.

  12. nannymm

    Off topic…. it is freezing here in the North Country. It’s 28 degrees and we have snow on the ground. I’m about ready to make a fire in mid-MAY!!!! I really hope it warms up by Friday because I’m going on a camping trip with the Boy Scouts. (I’m the cook/ cooking merit badge counselor.)

  13. nannymm

    Well, Brian, time will tell. It just seems to me that Obama, once again, took the easy way out, seeking “harmony” rather than trying to achieve an ideological end. After November, the Dems will have a smaller majority in the Senate. If Obama gets another pick, he won’t be able to get a true liberal confirmed. This was his last chance. I think he blew it.

  14. nannymm

    Huh? That link doesn’t work.

  15. it’s a link to your post about your boy scout weekend.

  16. nannymm

    And, Brian, sometimes I think you drank the KoolAid. You’re A-OK with everything Obama does. Let’s see… I think you were a bit disappointed once. Otherwise, you’re one of his biggest cheerleaders. Sorry, I can’t do that. I think he made a mistake. I’m actually very disappointed in him overall. He’s not a liberal or Progressive, In fact, he doesn’t seem to have any strongly held ideological beliefs, at all. It’s just not the kind of change I was hoping for.

  17. nannymm

    Disneyland? Why? LOL You obviously have not spent anytime with a Boy Scout troop. 😉

  18. Huh, what’s with the insulting tone to your post?

  19. eProf2

    Kagan was the Obama Solicitor General for the Citizens United case where the SC ruled in favor of corporations having first amendment rights and now can spend any amount they want on candidates and issues. See the transcript where Chief Justice Roberts asked Ms. Kagan why she was dropping the central point of the government’s case. In other words, she lost the court during the oral arguments because she omitted by choice or chance a “central point” of contention. She couldn’t convince one of five justices to side with her and the government. What does Obama see in her? She’s a friend from the University of Chicago days?

  20. nannymm

    Brian, I didn’t mean to insult you. But, geez! You actually support this? I don’t get it! I thought we were all liberals here. Kagan is clearly not! Why are you so OK with this? Just because you think she’ll be OK on GLBT issues? Don’t count on it. Hell, we expected a lot more from Obama on that score, too. But all we ever get is words and promises, no real action or meaningful change.

    • dnd

      Nanny,
      No we’re not all liberals here. That said, the only flaming liberal in the Democratic primary was Kucinich. Not Obama, not Dodd, not Richardson, not Edwards, not Gravel, not Biden and certainly not Hillary. So I don’t understand you being disappointed that Obama’s actions haven’t been in alignment with the progressives.

      I prefer not to have ideologues on the SCOTUS. Countering the right wing ideologues with left wing ideologues will accomplish nothing. What we need is someone level-headed that can make compelling arguments that the ideologues can’t refute. Will Kagen be that person? I don’t know. I do know that “Shorty” is freaking brilliant.

      I’m looking forward to the hearings.

  21. I’m pretty sure the sentiment I expressed was one of ambivalence, not “okness” and I do like the position she’s taken on gay issues. She does not stir passion in me one way or another.

  22. nannymm

    Well, that’s what I don’t understand. This woman may well move the court to the right; THAT is something that does more than stir my passion. It frightens me! It’s something that should concern every liberal and progressive. The implications are enormous and have the potential to cause great harm to this country. Hell, Kagan is even said to be “flexible” on first amendment rights!
    Anyone, I’m sorry you are offended. That was not my intent.

  23. Well when you name call for some reason people get offended, go figure.

  24. nannymm

    So be offended. It’s your choice. I have better things to do than deal with this nonsense. Later!

  25. I seriously doubt this close to the mid-terms Obama could get a hard core lefty affirmed. It would have been a political disaster to have nominated a “flaming liberal” right now.

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    Somehow I suspect we’re going to see a new round of elections in the UK within two years, I don’t see how a coalition govt between the Tories and Lib Dems can long survive.

  27. dog's eye view

    nanny: we are not all liberals here. You are a strong one, and see others in your own mold.

    (oh — looking upthread — dnd beat me to it.)

    Obama did not run as a liberal or progressive — actually as a dreaded centrist, who believed in outreach to his political opponents as well. That has not worked out that well for him, as the congressional GOP is purely oppositional, but he truly tried.

    You’re free to be disappointed in him, but your premise lacks reality.

    I think his ideology is pragmatism and setting the course for a more sustainable future. He is less ideological than you might like, but I see that as a plus.

    We have enough going on now. An ideological fight over politics on the Supreme Court? No.

  28. dog's eye view

    “we expected a lot more from Obama on that score, too. But all we ever get is words and promises, no real action or meaningful change.”

    This is just not true. It’s actively false.

  29. I don’t think there is a question that he’s a liberal, but I think he’s far more pragmatic than is comfortable for a lot of people.

  30. dog's eye view

    ps: nanny: not picking on you! I think it’s great that you are so passionate and care so much about a just society.

    But we are fin and feather and the occasional talon here. Actually not all on the same page, and it can be a strength, particularly on a blog.

  31. dog's eye view

    I think he’s a realistic politician with liberal tendencies, and the ability to look at issues from many angles.

    Fire Dog Lake and Daily Kos can be as much of an echo chamber as Fox News Channel.

    • dnd

      Huffpo is way too jumbled and tabloid. FDL and Taylor Marsh, too PUMA. Kos seems fragmented. True/Slant can be edgy, which I like.

      But Margaret and Helen, now that’s good stuff.

      http://margaretandhelen.wordpress.com/

      • dnd

        Future transcript of the Senate judiciary committee hearings:

        Sen. Schumer: “Ms. Kagen, what do you call a person who’s conversation has a lot of Yiddish?”

        Ms. Kagen: “An Oyster.”

        Get it? An Oyster! LMAO!

        Ok, never mind. How do I delete this comment?

  32. I like Kos, Fire Dog I can live without.

  33. dog's eye view

    Some comments from Kevin Drum and readers on Huffington Post turning five.

    http://motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2010/05/huffpo-turns-five#comments

    HuffPost has some good content, but I don’t visit much because it’s so jumbled and seems disorganized.

    The Loehmann’s for newshounds.

  34. Intrade is giving Sestak a 70% chance of winning the primary, outstanding!

  35. tonyb39

    “She is a disappointing pick IMO. My only hope is that once she assumes the bench she will shift to the left. But I’m not counting on it. All in all, I’m disappointed in Obama.”

    Nanny,
    I agree,where’s Obama’s fight??It always seems he play’s it safe,ha with the majority he has,its shameful!!

  36. tonyb39

    “FDL and Taylor Marsh, too PUMA.”

    D,
    Again you disappoint,PUMA,its a figment of your and Brian’s imagination! The term refers to anyone who dares criticize the President,how Bush administration like….

  37. I have no imagination ask any of my exes!

    LOL

  38. tonyb39

    http://www.taylormarsh.com/

    “The Gay Rumor Rises”

    “The White House may love that the left is not thrilled with Ms. Kagan, because Pres. Obama is always delighted when he can pick fights with the people who got him elected. But they are not in the least prepared for the sexuality rumor that is now front and center on day one.

    Sexuality is not an issue to be a justice of the Supreme Court, as I’ve said already.

    The Catch 22 is that if it’s not, what’s the big deal with Ms. Kagan revealing her personal life, regardless of where that leads?

    Answer: Because we all know that any nominee being gay would be a big deal to the right-wing gas bags who drive the negative campaign on Supreme Court nominees, which is played on a scorched earth battlefield.”

  39. tonyb39

    “I have no imagination ask any of my exes!”

    Hi Brian,
    You funny! Your imagination can be fun,not criticizing at all.I take you very seriously,but PUMA,ha ha…

  40. tony you’re the only one that brought up PUMA! You know when you’re pointing one finger at someone else you got 3 pointing back at you!

  41. tonyb39

    No, D brought up PUMA!

  42. tonyb39

    PUMA,The term refers to anyone who dares criticize the President,how Bush administration like….

    Yep,bares repeating!

  43. tonyb39

    Brian,
    Your a GENTLEMEN!!

  44. tonyb39

    A GENTLEMAN that has a right to believe fully in PUMA….I’m still laughing though…

  45. tonyb39

    D,
    Oh god D,
    You falling back on that same OBOT line,tiring really…

  46. tonyb39

    D,
    Yep,any criticism of the President is because Hillary lost,i’m still so upset,doesn’t matter i voted for the President..You make me laugh…

  47. Why do I have the feeling I should have put out saucers of cream around the blog today?

  48. tonyb39

    Oh please,can i have some sugar with my cream??Lov you guys no matter..

  49. No, you’re sweet enough already tony.

    *gag*

  50. tonyb39

    D,
    Love Hillary and i agree with you,she’s a kick ass SOS..Glad the President asked her to join the Administration,wasn’t at the time,but i was wrong..

  51. tonyb39

    Now,now Brian,i want you to sleep well tonight! My friend Chris is coming over and were going to watch HBO’s ‘True Blood” second season..Give it a look sometime,really good…

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