Making Tax Cuts Permanent

In the latest volley in the fiscal cliff negotiations Speaker Boehner wants to make the Bush tax cuts on the rich permanent.  This is interesting politics, surely the Speaker knows that there’s no such thing as making a tax rate “permanent.”  The Constitution puts the tax issue in Congress’ lap and they can change it any time they can get the President to sign the bill.  And they have done so over and over and over again.  So if the Speaker wants to makes the tax cuts “permanent,” it would require an amendment to the Constitution, which is not what he is proposing.  Curious.



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26 responses to “Making Tax Cuts Permanent

  1. Boner is doomed, he can’t deliver, so he’s making outrageous demands.

  2. tempebev

    Have they all forgotten that the tax cuts made by Bush were TEMPORARY? What part of that word do they (GOP) not understand? Is it similar to thinking that being elected to office is a permanent position and they owe nothing to the people who elected them? Nothing is permanent except a personal dive off the living cliff.

    Get on with it or get over it ! What a bunch of bull crap.

  3. Boner has no choice but to propose the absurd, he can’t bring the votes to get anything through the house, he has almost no control over his own caucus.

    • dnd

      It’s gonna be interesting to see what Boner does. It’s no wonder the President doesn’t trust him. Boner stabbed the prez in the back after serious negotiating on the debt ceiling.

      • dnd

        Amb. Susan Rice has notified the President that she wants to remove her name for consideration of Sec. of State.

        While Grampy McCain, Lindsey Graham and Kelly Ayoette may be doing the happy dance, I think this may backfire on them.

  4. tempebev

    I certainly hope your prediction of backfiring on McCain, Graham and Ayoette comes true. They are bitter men. I’m hoping for Jon Huntsman (GOP) or Bill Richardson, (DEM & Hispanic) I think Kerry should keep his senate seat, and let the repugs dig their grave deeper.

    There is so much crap going on maybe we should ask England to take us back. At least we would have good medical care options.

    • dnd

      I didn’t think about Huntsman. Here’s my play: Rice becomes National Security Adviser (no Senate approval required) and Huntsman becomes U.N. Ambassador. While I think Richardson would make a better SoS than Kerry, I’m thinking he’s a lock, though that wouldn’t preclude Kerry using Richardson at a very high level at State.

      p.s. Chuck Hagel at defense.

  5. I think Kerry should go to State!

  6. Agree Hagel at Defense. However highly disagree as to who would make the better SOS!

  7. Brian: I know you’d like to see Kerry at State, and JK is well qualified.

    However, I would not nominate a single sitting Senator, were I President Obama. All that Citizens United money, looking to make a difference. And I certainly would not give McCain and Graham what they sought. Kerry’s gonna have to take one for the team and continue to ably serve the people of Massachusetts, as far as I’m concerned.

    Very sad at what happened with Rice. Not following it closely, but wondering if the talk about her investments was enough to give those Senators who wanted a fig leaf something to grab onto.

    There is nothing to Benghazi, save that we lost four excellent public servants way before their time.

    (Caveat: I could be persuaded on Kerry if Barney Frank stepped forward to run for Senate, and if it looked like he was unbeatable. That’s trusting (ahem) Massholes a little more than I’m comfortable with, though.)

    HOWEVER: Who else would make a good confirmable SOS for a two-year term?

    Because John Kerry’s seat is up in 2014, and maybe he could step down and become SOS then.

    • dnd

      “HOWEVER: Who else would make a good confirmable SOS for a two-year term?”

      BILL RICHARDSON! 😉 That said, I think any competent SoS should be there for at least four years to develop continuity and relationships with foreign leaders.

      Agree that Frank should be appointed, then Deval Patrick should run for the seat.

      • dnd

        Today all the talking heads have been saying who’s to blame for Rice taking her name out of the running. The reality is that they are the one to blame. If they’d quit putting partisan nutbags like McCain and Graham in front of the camera, none of this would have ever happened, and they know it.

        The lamestream media likes to gin-up controversy and for that they need accomplices from the fringe elements.

  8. Barney Frank will not go for it, he’s retired because he wanted to, not because he had to.

  9. tempebev

    We’ve talked about this before. Oregon now Connecticut. How many of these insane mass shootings in the US have to take place before the fucking Congress outlaws AK-47’s etc. My prediction back then was when someone from Congress or a relative gets killed. That hasn’t happened yet but it will if things don’t change.

  10. I am so sick of this shit.

    If dead kindergarteners and their teachers, 2 weeks before Christmas, aren’t a tipping point?

    We’re better than this.

  11. tempebev

    Just in case anyone has forgotten how many of these mass shootings have occurred in 2012. As the article says, “it’s not random any more, it’s predictable.?

  12. At some point, and hopefully this is that point we have to collectively decide what type of nation we want to be, what’s more important, our guns or our children?

  13. tempebev

    Even if you’re not a mom, please sign and forward this:

    Today Is the Day for Common Sense Gun Regulations
    We are beyond heartbroken as we think of the kindergarteners and others that died today in Connecticut. Today is the 3rd day this week when there’s been a mass shooting in our nation.

    We are parents. Many NRA members are parents. And none of us want to live in a nation where children are gunned down. Today is the day for the NRA and for Congress to step up and start proposing laws that protect children and all people.

    *Sign on to our open letter to the National Rifle Association (NRA) and to Congress urging them to make today the last day that they block common sense gun regulations that protect all of our families.

  14. Signed it, Bev, even though I’m an “aunt rising.”

    Good on Moms Rising.

    I’ve been at the elementary school behind our house each afternoon this week. Taking care of a great little kid (neighbor) who got a concussion last Thursday when he hit his head on the metal pole on a basketball court. He goes to school in the morning and rests at home afternoons. He’s got headaches still, a goose-egg-sized knot on his forehead, and two bright little eyes with green under them (used to be black eyes).

    Anyhoo, all the school’s doors are locked, and you have to ring and be buzzed in at the front door.

    Heard about the massacre literally minutes before heading over to collect Alton today. No difference whatsoever in manner of front office staff; would guess they’d heard about the murders, but was not about to bring it up. Wondering now if maybe they hadn’t heard.

    There was a platter of holiday goodies and snacks on the table in the office, and decorations up. And little kids filing into the cafeteria and watching me arrive.

    We’re all too vulnerable to allow this violence to continue.

    It’s happening too much lately, and why?

  15. tempebev

    Thank you for signing. Nothing will change. I am totally at a loss why people choose having automatic weapons in the name of the constitution over people. Very similar to wanting the wealthy to retain their tax break. Nothing will change.@#$%^&*()_ GOP

  16. Why anyone needs to own an assault weapon is beyond me, the name says it all, this is not a defense weapon.

  17. tempebev

    After sending out the petition to several people including some GOPs, I received a lesson in history from one about why gun are so important and there is no need for them to be controlled. I was really pissed and sent the copy to my dtr. She couldn’t sleep and composed this poem in here head last nite. She said I could use it as a reply. I didn’t, but am sharing it with you:
    How about this as a response: a poem (I wrote it in my head last night):

    Guns don’t kill people.
    People kill people…
    with knives,
    with bombs,
    with their bare hands,
    and even with airplanes.

    Yes, people kill people…
    but mostly with guns.

    Then, call her a fuck-head.

  18. Your daughter is brilliant. Laughing at the last line.

    I think we are going to see positive change arising out of this tragedy. We will have to work for it, though, and work very hard and patiently.

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