Sandy Hook

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  1. ESP, dnd.

    Just saw that document. And those birthdates.

    Absolutely chilling.

    Here’s one link:

    http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/12/15/live-updates-on-school-shooting/#the-names-of-the-victims

  2. very chilling, well done D.

  3. Margaret and Helen have an inspired blogpost up. Cannot argue with a word.

    Click on our sidebar.

  4. CNN is reporting the prez has picked Kerry for SOS!

  5. Networks carrying President Obama’s speech, and it’s a good one.

  6. Well the Fox crowd is going to go crazy, gun control is on the agenda. There are some very good things about being second term prez.

  7. From the Margaret and Helen blogpost: Guns do not kill people. They just make it easier to kill people.

    “I have no doubt that in the coming days we will learn that no laws or gun control of any kind could have prevented this tragedy. There are millions of guns already out there and new gun control laws won’t do anything about that… bad people can always find a way to get a gun. Most gun owners are responsible people who have legitimate reasons to own a gun. So there’s nothing we can do, right?

    Bullshit. Not doing anything is not the answer. It’s the problem. I refuse to believe that hunters and responsible gun owners can’t have a meaningful conversation about better gun laws with citizens who do not wish to own guns.

    We are already hearing about the mental instability of the shooter – a child himself. And there will be meaningful conversation about the lack of good mental health policies and how that was the cause of all this and not gun control laws. Everyone can agree that mental illness, just like any illness, should not go untreated. So where is the disconnect? Why are conversations about mental illness and gun control mutually exclusive? Please Dear God if Republicans and Democrats can ever come together about something, this must be it. And for those of you who think now is not the time to talk about gun laws, I wholeheartedly agree. That conversation should have happened long ago. And it definitely should have happened before 20 precious children lost their lives.”

    http://margaretandhelen.com/2012/12/15/guns-do-not-kill-people-they-make-it-easier-to-kill-people/

    dog: This time is different. We can beat the gun lobby, and insist on acceptable gun safety laws. It will not be easy, but the wind is at our back on this one.

    Too much violence. Also, you have Obama voters in close touch and sharpened up from the election battle. Fresh social media contacts. You even have moderate Romney voters with great distaste for their lunatic fringe brethren. We can coalesce around keeping kids and other innocents safe.

    Even people who own guns, who are responsible gun owners, do not want to see first graders mowed down, or have their kids’ elementary schools become fortresses. What then, do we teach our children?

  8. tempebev

    Just heard an interesting comment – of course political! Perhaps those politicians who are tied with apron strings (money) with the NRA may think twice before they stick with them when this comes up in Congress. They have to worry about being re-elected and people are pissed about the gun issue.

  9. I don’t know why they keep saying 26 victims, is the shooter’s mother any less a victim?

  10. Interesting article on the sidebar from the Christian Science Monitor on gun safety legislation in the wake of other countries’ tragedies.

    http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Latest-News-Wires/2012/1218/Gun-control-after-school-shootings-Lessons-from-around-the-globe

    Britain actually saw a rise in its rate of handgun crimes in the first four years after its 1998 handgun ban (due to gang violence), but the number fell after that.

    Tidbit: yes, Switzerland has a lot of weapons (“stashed under beds and in cupboards.”) But they don’t have much ammo in their houses. It’s at the military depot.

    Daniel Moynihan, ahead of his time once again. He proposed decades ago limiting the amount of ammunition and regulating its purchase, since we have so many guns floating around already. That might be part of our eventual solution.

    It could have delayed the Aurora movie theatre shooter, had he had to wait months upon months to amass the ammo he purchased online. And so James Holmes might have come to the attention of the authorities that much sooner.

  11. tempebev

    I think it’s great that people are talking about doing something about gun control. An article in the paper this morning was about how gun sales had increased in the past few days. IMO, there will be lots of talk and nothing will be done, even when it happens how ever many time again.

    I did have an wicked thought:
    Picture an NRA convention. Two men enter unnoticed on either side of the meeting hall with AK47’s blasting away and killing many, many attendees. The conundrum: who will get blamed? People or guns?

  12. I’ve been doing my happy dance ever since I saw the news!

  13. tempebev

    If the Mayan prediction comes true, it’s been nice knowing you and contributing to the blog. If it turns out that we’re still here on 12/22/12, I’m looking forward to continuing to read your comments and adding my 2cents worth every now and then.

  14. Been nice knowing you all! 🙂

  15. G.O.P. Leaders in House Pull ‘Plan B’ Tax Bill, Citing Lack of Votes
    House Republican leaders abruptly pulled their fallback tax bill from the floor Thursday night, conceding that they did not have the votes to pass it

    Maybe the Mayans were talking about the GOP!

  16. tempebev

    Oops, John has a problem. Eric is foaming at the mouth at the new possibilities.

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