Distancing From Obama?

The cable pundits  are filling their time talking about how so many Democratic Senate candidates are distancing themselves from President Obama.  I guess there’s nothing much else to talk about these days.  Drama must equal ratings.  Not surprisingly North Carolina’s Kay Hagen and Kentucky’s Allison Grimes tiptoe around the subject of the first Black president.  More surprisingly is Colorado’s Mark Udall.  He’s not really distancing himself from President Obama, but Obama isn’t out in Colorado campaigning for Udall, unlike Elizabeth Warren, Hillary Clinton (twice — so far) and First Lady Michelle Obama.

There are a couple of things wrong here.  First, the polls may overstate the Presidents’ unpopularity.  He is certainly way more popular than Congress.  Second, the polls may reflect that the lazy main stream media are just stenographers for the right.  More cuckoo-nuts right wingers equals more ratings.  Third, the low mid-term turnout meme may not apply this year.

The President gets this.  His objective is for the Democrats not to lose the Senate.  His feelings are not hurt.  What the pundits miss is that while some may not want the President on their campaign trail, they are more than happy to accept the cash he generates from fund-raisers.  And should they win, they won’t forget his contributions to their campaigns.

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  1. How gang, well there is nothing to bring out the coward in a politician like an upcoming election! The whole thing is just so stupid, Grimmes seriously screwed up on this one!

    On the personal front I’m still on WFH (working from home) status at work, luckily everything I need to done right now I can easily do from home. I’m on 6 different meds but will start cutting back next week and it’s all knocking the shit out of me, sleeping about 12 hours a day. Doc still isn’t sure what’s causing all this pulmonary inflammation but more and more it’s looking like an autoimmune thing and he’s still not willing to rule out the need for surgery at some point, sigh. Hope everyone is well, really! 🙂

    • dnd

      Brian,
      Hope you’re well enough to take Ralphie out for a walk. The four things dogs like most is eatin’, poopin’, peein’ and sleepin’. Now that I think about it, that’s what I like most too.

      Agreed that Grimes screwed up. When asked during the debate if she’d voted for Obama, she should have replied: “What kind of dumb-ass question is that? Of course I voted for the President. This is Kentucky. We are the 47% that rich, snooty, blue-blood elitists like Romney and McConnell look down their noses at. Fuck ’em.
      Oh and by the way, thanks for trying to set me up with that question. I guess we all now know you’re voting for McConnell. I’m not stupid and neither are the people of the great state of Kentucky!”

      Had she said that she’d be 10 points up in the polls now.

  2. Yes I’m able to walk him, make grocery stores runs too, not quite a shut in. You’re right thought D, old men & old dogs, we’re easy to please.

    • dnd

      Brian,
      Patsy’s old friend got it right:

      • dnd

        New Jersey’s wise-guy governor has figured that his quarantine of nurse Kaci Hickox was a huge political mistake. He either figured he could benefit from the politics of fear and panic, or the distrust of the CDC on Ebola. Turns out he was wrong on both counts. The backlash has been so severe on Christie that he’s shipping Hickox back to her home in Maine. His “leadership” is front and center and it’s not good. His political career is over.

        I hope she sues the crap out of him for denying her civil rights.

  3. tempebev

    Hi everyone – back from a weekend trip to SLC. Geeze Brian, what the hell have you got your body into? I thought I was the only one with an autoimmune disorder.

    All this ebola hysteria is interesting. How many have died from the flu this year? Anyone interested? One thing bothers me. As reported, a doc with doc without borders”, and had been caring for ebola pts, came back home and then went to a bowling alley for fun. The next day he had symptoms. I thought this was the prime example of how people don’t care what they do. If a doc, who has been treating e. pts., doesn’t have the common sense to perhaps self-confine himself for at least a few days, then I think the name should be changed to “Docs without common sense.” Since I’ve been out of town, I don’t know any follow up. I ranted and raved to Mr. Bev for at least 5 minutes about the stupidity of people.

    Possible change in the news: Utah is thinking of giving up daylight savings time, and going with AZ with MST. What a concept. This is one subject that most people would agree on – dump DST.

    Re: politicians, they all suck except Eliz. Warren. I’m crossing all my fingers and toes that Allison beats Mitch.

  4. Bev I’ve had IBD for about 20 years, not new at all to the autoimmune rodeo here!

    • dnd

      Cuomo is a wienie. If his father wasn’t such a beloved, honorable person he’d be the guy euthanizing puppies at the local shelter.

      • dnd

        Let’s see. Elizabeth Warren, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton and now Rachael Maddow coming to Colorado to push for Udall in the Senate and Hickenlooper as Governor. Will the pundits be wrong? I hope so.

  5. Tell us how you really feel D.

    • dnd

      I think for the sake of national sanity, Chris Christie should be quarantined.

      • dnd

        Saw Christie on the news saying that the safety of the citizens of NJ was his primary job. I guess creating so much congestion on the Fort Lee that ambulances doesn’t count.

        And then he said that nurse Hickox, while confined in that tent had access to the finest takeout in Newark. My first thought was, well at least she didn’t have to eat hospital food. And then I started wondering what qualifies as “fine” takeout in Newark.

  6. tempebev

    Brian – Sorry about the IBD. I’m the newcomer to autoimmune 🙂 I hope you feel better soon and won’t need surgery.

  7. We don’t have to quarantine him, just muzzle him!

    • dnd

      I just love Kaci Hickox going for a bike ride this morning. She just came back from West Africa, risking her life to save people from this horrible disease. What makes these two fat governors think she’s afraid of them?

  8. She’s def. my person of the week!

  9. tempebev

    Boo to you too 🙂

  10. Happened to see Chuck Todd on NBC Nightly News last night. He reports that less than 20% of polled voters think Ebola or ISIS are the most pressing issues. Number one answer was “jobs” and the economy. Todd also said Democratic voting enthusiasm catching up with GOP.

    dnd: out on a limb with projection on Colorado Senate and governor’s races?

    I am going to HOPE HOPE HOPE that Udall and Hickenlooper are re-elected. Their opponents are not up to the offices sought.

    NYTimes upshot blog: It May Be Too Late, but Colorado Early Ballots Are Shifting Toward Democrats

    http://nyti.ms/1udCUHy

    Too late? Maybe not.

    • dnd

      Sra Dog,
      I’m not buying it. The media wants drama for ratings. The last time I looked at the Quinnepiac poll, I looked at the breakdown of those polled: old white men. That’s not Colorado’s demo.

      The media rarely reports on the margin of error, and even if they do, they don’t understand it. Nor do they understand that the polls only take into account random error. There are other sources of error that are significant.

      What’s really interesting is watching the east coast pundits speaking like experts on the west. They either look at the polls or look at other reports or follow one particular campaign around. None of that is a valid view of what voters think. They don’t look at candidates records, they just report on the campaigns. Voters look at both.

      I think teabagger skunk Gardner will lose as will Romney-wanna-be Beauprez.

  11. tempebev

    Hiya – did all of you enjoy getting an extra hour of sleep with the beginning or ending or DST?

  12. I’m not particularly worried about losing the Senate, two years of repug infighting is going to be very good for the Dems.

  13. I think so too, Brian. Here’s my REAL concern about 2016: I am not sure Hillary is up to it, and I worry there are not known and strong alternatives out there.

    I think Hillary’s time was 2004, and she passed on running. We really needed her that election. She is a far better campaigner than John Kerry. History has passed her by, and if income inequality is truly a huge issue, is Hillary Clinton — tied to Robert Rubin and the buckraking side of the Democratic party — a good standard-bearer? With a son in law who is an investment banker and a daughter who collected $600,000 for feel good stories for the NBC network, while actual journalists are losing their jobs right and left?

    And aside from that, what happens if Hillary has a health problem?

    I would REALLY

  14. sorry: I would REALLY like to see someone like Elizabeth Warren, with EW’s ability to connect and explain modern life — to talk over the talking heads looking for soundbites and gaffes.

    I’d like to see Elizabeth Warren, really. Which is why we’re seeing so many mean comments about “fake Indian” and making it sound like she has no qualifications.

    I realize a lot of people think it’s Hillary’s turn. I would say it’s a woman’s turn, and a forward-thinking woman. I’d be fine with Hillary in the VP slot.

    But Hillary ran a shambles of a campaign in 2008 — it was godawful — and how do you know she’ll do that much better this time?

    • dnd

      Sra Dog,
      I agree that it’d difficult for Hillary to win. And even if she did win, it would be impossible for her to govern. The right hates blacks, women and mostly, the Clintons.

  15. I think we need another candidate. Or a few. Only saving grace is that GOP has a clown car of candidates. Although heavy media cover. We’d be so much safer with a functioning press. Not this for-profit shit we have now.

    • dnd

      Sra Dog,
      I think Joe Biden would be a great candidate. He has a huge amount of expertise, a foreign policy expert, knows more about how the Senate works than anybody since LBJ, and most importantly: everybody likes him. It really hard to be against somebody everybody likes. The right can only play the gaffe card so much. And with a return to populism on the left and more and more fringe on the right sets up a great opportunity for an EW run.

      Also agree that the current press coverage sucks. Big time.

  16. tempebev

    After today, all the advertising will be about Christmas. I’m not quite ready for the Christmas music that is already playing.

    Joe would be a interesting candidate. Wouldn’t his gaffs be called into question as to whether he could be a serious leader? EW would be fantastic, but I don’t think she can pull it off. Will Jeb be the Rep. candidate?

    • dnd

      Bev,
      Because of the Udall/Gardner and Hickenlooper/Beauprez races we have non-stop political ads. I will happily trade Christmas ads for the political PAC ads. They make Joseph Goebbels look like an amature.

  17. dnd: I am so sorry. That’s Citizens United money. I saw it in September.

    Crossing my fingers for Kay Hagan in NC. Mark Warner’s race turning into a squeaker, although I think he’ll prevail.

    I do not understand this country. I am so proud we have President Obama, and wish him strength.

    I don’t know if this is the ugliness before the boil finally gets lanced, or if we are more endangered by the plutocracy than the average person realizes. Voting is so important.

    • dnd

      Well the teabaggers won thanks to the support from the fascists. Koch suckers.

      I have three predictions:
      1. The Republicans will continue to submit and pass fringe legislation. Obama won’t sign it. The Republicans will then blame Obama for not getting anything done.
      2. Using this election as a mandate the Republicans will screw things up so badly the Democrats will have a good 2016.
      3. The Notorious R.B.G. will not retire.

      “Be careful what you wish for.” — Jeffrey Archer

  18. Well at least Scott Brown lost!

  19. I have not watched TV news of any kind since maybe before midnight last night. Did catch most of Kill Bill, Vol. 2.

    The silence from the idiot box is pleasing. The silence at the ballot box, not so much.

    • dnd

      Sra Dog,
      Best not to watch any political coverage. It’s mostly the right thumping their chests, chanting “WE WON! WE WON!” Since they don’t believe in education, they probably haven’t read Homer’s Odyssey and the lesson that hubris is followed by nemesis.

  20. tempebev

    Oh well, nothing will change except perhaps more vetoes as D predicts. On to Christmas music and sales.

  21. Very good press conference by President Obama. Worth catching again on C-Span.

  22. tempebev

    The Supreme Court will have to get into the gay marriage arena now.

  23. tempebev

    Will breaking of bread with the Prez and leaders of Congress today be the beginning of cooperation on both sides? Will Obama, after receiving the “warnings” from McConnell and Boehner quake with fear his last two years and become totally lame duck? The comedians and late night hosts will still have plenty of material to carry their monologues. 24 more months and we do this again.

    • dnd

      I think the real lesson from this election is for the Dems to grow a spine. Boehner and McConnell are wienies. They can’t stop their nut-bag fringe. Back the prez. Give the right the finger. Stand up for what you believe in.

  24. tempebev

    I agree 100%. If there is any good from having the condition “spinal stenosis,” the Dems could benefit from a case of it. Surgery is probably indicated and fusion might help get some people on their feet instead of their ass.

    • dnd

      Two Americans are released from North Korea, after another was released from North Korea and a solder from Mexico. How do we thank our President? A Republican Congress! What a country!

      I can’t wait for the right-wing nuts spin this against Obama on the Sunday shows.

  25. Hi Gang,
    Had a bad couple of days here but seem to be on the mend now, this lung thing is seriously hard. D, I don’t have a lot of sympathy for these people who are taken hostage in N. Korea. It seems to me that they feel being evangelical Christians they are entitled to ignore the laws of the country.

  26. Well we finally have a name for it:
    Pulmonary Mycobacterium avium complex infection

  27. Say that fast four times. Hope you are on the mend, Brian, and that you are much more comfy. (And hope they’ve got the right diagnosis.)

    I have not watched network news or MSNBC since Election Night.

    And I am so much happier for it.

    • dnd

      Chuck Todd has a new book out on the President entitled: The Stranger. It is basically the disrespectful meme the right wing has been pushing. I’m guessing book sales will be less than Todd’s severance check from NBC when Meet the Press ratings plummet to zero. After this book gets out the only guests he’ll get are right wing nuts, which is pretty much the way it is now.

  28. Good morning dogs….

    Yes, I’m feeling better. I can’t say it one time fast much less 4 times. In the biz it’s called a MAC infection, long and short, it’s very much like TB in terms of symptoms and treatment but unlike TB it’s not contagious (a very good thing). Like TB the treatment is long term antibiotic cocktail. I’m very very lucky in the fact that my current work project only requires me to go into the office about 10 hours a week and the rest time I can easily work from home (amazing how sometimes things just work out)

    I’m very much on the same page as you regarding cable news, I very much need light fare right now.

  29. tempebev

    Brian – thank goodness you received a diagnosis and can be treated. Checked it out online, and it definitely doesn’t sound like fun. Take good care of yourself and I hope you respond to treatment.

    • dnd

      Baby it’s cold outside. Yesterday morning it was 60 degrees. By 10am the front started rolling in. The high today didn’t hit double digits. It’s suppose to be 10-17 below tonight.

      This must be Obama’s fault 😉

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